9/11 pentagon attack

[amicheze]

im sure a lot of you guys have seen this already, but i thought it was pretty interesting. i think turbodgermanpat sent this to me a while ago.

http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php

[YellowEvo]

that's weird

[94accordtuner]

really makes you re-think things....

[STiSchucky]

Stupid low-rate conspiracy sites.

[SmitEvo]

Conspiracy theory.........or photoshop is a damn good program......

[HandoEX]

bunk! fake! But interesting.

[PSiedTSi]

that damn thing stopped like a quarter of the way through loading

[HandoEX]

So, what do you think the makers of this film have to say about where the hijacked plane went that supposedly hit the pentagon :confused: ? It can't be too easy to make a 65 ton jet just disappear :rolleyes: so they forgot to account for the actual hijacked plane in the vid.

[SmitEvo]

Well maybe it really didnt crash......

[jct_4628]

hmmm, so they can just take the whole airplane out of the video, is that what you people who think its fake think?? I'm lost.......and how could an airplane punch tiny holes through steel building...it would put big holes....wtv...hehe..very interesting

[STiSchucky]

This is stupid. Obviously the plane desenegrated(sp?) the terrorists prolly had gun powder in their shoes or somethin to make a bigger explosion, i mean, none of the planes flew through the other side of the WTC either, and youd think itd go right through it for how fast it was traveling

[jct_4628]

they have video of the planes hitting the WTC though...where's the vids of this?

[STiSchucky]

FBI has them, or so says the retard who made this video.

[SmitEvo]

:p Damn conspiracy so we could go to war, just like the tsunami was created by a big bomb or aliens used an eco bomb.......:p

[HandoEX]

:p Damn conspiracy so we could go to war, just like the tsunami was created by a big bomb or aliens used an eco bomb.......:p
Damn Aliens.
No, but really, we all know that 4 planes were hijacked that day. Two ended up in the WTC and one in a PA field. If a missile hit the Pentagon, then what happened to the fourth plane? Did the gov't just make it disappear into thin air?

[YellowEvo]

that's what i was thinking, they never did find the indistructable "black box" of that one did they, the thing that they find at every damn plane crash no matter where it is at

and i dont ever remember them saying that they found and pieces of plane

[SmitEvo]

It is chilling in Snowflake, AZ based on the story Fire in the Sky........

[PSiedTSi]

how do you know 4 planes were really hijacked? we hear only what the media tells us...

[SmitEvo]

How do you know there is really outer space? All you have seen is pictures.........there is no wind on the moon, so why does the flag have ripples????????

[STiSchucky]

This is dumb. The only black box they found that day was the one from the PA field. They never found it in the WTC, so i guess planes didnt fly into there either, even though we've seen the video billions of times. Those flames melted beams that were sposed to withstand intense fires. Obviously if a plane can take down 1 110 story building with just flames, I dont think the black box will be found either.

[YellowEvo]

get to work :D, is it busy tonight lol i take this as a no

[My NOva]

exactly how do we know that and kirk they showed 757 crashes in the video so to find no plane parts what so ever is very sceptical i remeber when all of this happened they still say no plane parts were foundand i really dont think that all of the vid was photoshoped and as for the small holes there had to be a bomb or a missle most likely a missle cause if u here a woosh dont know how many of u have been to the jet field in california but they do testing and bombs make a big woosh sound when there low to the ground then they explode on target i think a jet did this not a jet liner no 757 could make that u saw the photos of other 757 crashes there are still parts left there were are the parts of the plane???? that and the part of the biulding that collapsed did it 20 mins after the explotion

[YellowEvo]

This is dumb. The only black box they found that day was the one from the PA field. They never found it in the WTC, so i guess planes didnt fly into there either, even though we've seen the video billions of times. Those flames melted beams that were sposed to withstand intense fires. Obviously if a plane can take down 1 110 story building with just flames, I dont think the black box will be found either.

nope. they found them all

[SmitEvo]

Keep living in your dream world nova........

[My NOva]

How do you know there is really outer space? All you have seen is pictures.........there is no wind on the moon, so why does the flag have ripples????????
its called a thin wire didnt know if uremebered that from elementry school

[SmitEvo]

its called a thin wire didnt know if uremebered that from elementry school
I dont think you sensed the sarcasm in that post did you.....

[STiSchucky]

God, you can find a hole in any building, put it in there and say it was the pentagon. Its not that hard.

[SmitEvo]

Settle down napoleon

[My NOva]

lol

[YellowEvo]

It's all the work of that damn George W. Bush :D, j/k not to start another one of those wars to go on for 50 pages

[My NOva]

and im sure if that was in front of u it wouldnt be bigger then 5ft max so were is the rest of the pane???

[SmitEvo]

:) That isnt a plane what are you smoking.......:)

[HandoEX]

http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm

^^^Evidence supporting that it was indeed a jet.^^^

[My NOva]

but was it a 757 do we know???

[Pony_Racer]

just cause pieces of a plane were found at the Pentagon doesnt mean that they couldnt of been placed there....i dont want to sound skeptical but i dont believe it was a plane imo.
The government will stop at nothing to prevent bad info or things that will hurt them to be seen by the public. If it was a airliner than why the hell would the FBI worry about getting any source of video or images taken shortly before the crash? They didnt seem to concened about the WTC crashes, and the beams holding up the WTC didnt collapse because of a fire. They collapsed because of the airliners jet fuel which melted through the beams causing the collapse. And of course the crash site large round holes are not created by an airplane crash thats just common sense.

[tjamz]

I agree that the government covers up a lot of stuff they don't want us to know, I'm not sure about this point in particular, but certainly they hide stuff from the general public. Bush has even stated that we have a group of people who do nothing but spread misinformation in an attempt to confuse terrorists....kinda sounds like admitting to lying to us if you ask me.

[PSiedTSi]

yeah you smarty pants the jetfuel that burned really hot...thats what made the beams collapse...der

[Pony_Racer]

yeah you smarty pants the jetfuel that burned really hot...thats what made the beams collapse...der

yeah that was kind of a smart ass comment huh lol......had to :D

[HandoEX]

http://www.geocities.com/s911surprise3b/american_airlines_flight_77/purdueuniversity_757pentagon.jpg

Note: this is from a study done by Purdue University. It shows the height of the jet if it actually hit the Pentagon where it did.

[StangerBanger96]

heres another site kinda like it
http://www.freedomfiles.org/war/pentagon.htm

ive also seen a site that shows pictures of the plane found at the pentagon as well though.

[Pony_Racer]

ok but in those pictures the plane hit the lawn first...which if it made actually made the "impact" there would be tires marks and assuming it wasnt a soft landing i'm sure the tires and other thing would break off causing more of a "rut" in the ground and there was not marks....at all.

[HandoEX]

Nope, no marks. No wings. No real evidence of anything on the internet.
If anyone can PROVE anything from what is shown on the net, I'll owe you a beer. :p

[My NOva]

thank you

[Pony_Racer]

thats obvious evidence right there lol.....it wasnt the 757!!

[Joel]

How do you know there is really outer space? All you have seen is pictures.........there is no wind on the moon, so why does the flag have ripples????????
There is wind, just no oxygen...

[tjamz]

yeah you smarty pants the jetfuel that burned really hot...thats what made the beams collapse...der
I forget the exact #'s but jet fuel burns something like 400 degrees colder than what those beam should have been able to withstand. I'll see if I can find the source of that in a bit.

[SmitEvo]

Damn conpiracy theorists........9/11 is one big hoax right?

[Bryce]

Damn conpiracy theorists........9/11 is one big hoax right?
So was landing on the moon!

For all you know I could be a AOL Chat bot!

[tjamz]

no, I'm not saying it was a hoax, I'm saying there was more involved than we as civilians know.

[SmitEvo]

Well I dont think our own government is going to fly a plane into the pentagon.........

[LT1]

not a plane since ther is no evidence of a plane hitting the pentagon...a missle...maybe

[SmitEvo]

Okay we are going to shoot a missle at our own buildings and kill innocent people for what reason now?

[LT1]

http://www.asile.org/citoyens/numero13/pentagone/erreurs_en.htm

[PSiedTSi]

its all kinda too much

[d^flex]

how do we know that the planes purpose was originally to hit the pentagon? how do we know it wasnt going for somewhere else and wasnt shot down? what im getting at is that the majority of what happened we dont know, and we'll probably never know. we dont know what lead up to the pentagon being hit.

[YellowEvo]

no one was killed at the pentagon....just magically everyone survived there didn't they?

[tjamz]

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for taking out terrorists and protecting our country. I don't dispute that many many many lives were lost that day. I just think it was due mostly to a gov't security f*ck up, and the government is, without a doubt in my mind, covering up their mistakes. I'm not saying it didn't happen, I watched it, I have friends who were in NYC when the towers came down, who watched the planes hit the towers and watched as people jumped from the upper floors....they also claim they saw bright flashes of light in the LOWER floors prior to the building collapsing, which in their minds were explosions from bombs of some sort. As for the pentagon, I believe it was hit by something, what I don't know. Maybe it was a plane, maybe someone managed to shoot a shoulder launched missile into it...I'm not gonna say for sure as I do not know. My question is this: We lost 4 planes that day, we have a passenger list and flight crew list of everyone that is missing from all 4 planes, IF the plane that allegedly hit the pentagon did not do so, where is it and what happened to the crew/passengers of that plane? I don't buy into the conspiracy theory that the government was behind it to get us into a war, I do buy into the theory that there was more terrorist involvement than 4 planes running into stuff....perhaps with the WTC some of the people that went into the towers were terrorists dressed as rescue personell who planted bombs to drop the buildings. I don't know, but its not like bombs haven't been placed in the WTC before by terrorists w/ an attempt to flatten them. Again, I DO NOT DOUBT THAT 9/11 HAPPENED! OR THAT MANY LIVES WERE LOST. I just think there is more to it than we will ever know.

[d^flex]

thats what i was trying to get at.