HandoEX wrote:
Fuck Cali, Fargo is where the real excitement is at :rolleyes:

That is not what you said when you were out here! Remember the Ferarri we saw, you think that shit is going to be rolling down broadway in Fargo that time of the year? ummmmm, No!

Roller28 wrote:
Watch it Hando, I know where you live!! And if I remember correctly, you were just out here to CA to visit, and you had said that you want to move here to CA! Who's the F'n sally now beotch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck Cali, Fargo is where the real excitement is at :rolleyes:
*edit.....I DO love Fargo though

HandoEX wrote:
Fucking Sally

Watch it Hando, I know where you live!! And if I remember correctly, you were just out here to CA to visit, and you had said that you want to move here to CA! Who's the F'n sally now beotch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roller28 wrote:
I grew up in Fargo, lived there for 22 years. I then joined the Military to serve my country, and ended up here in sunny california. Would you want to move back to Fargo? I love it out here, it is nice and warm, and so much to do. I get back to Fargo every X-mas, and I realize when I am home, why I left. I hate the COLD!
Fucking Sally

STiSchucky wrote:
well you said youre from cali...your weathers a lil nicer there so of course we're indoors.

I grew up in Fargo, lived there for 22 years. I then joined the Military to serve my country, and ended up here in sunny california. Would you want to move back to Fargo? I love it out here, it is nice and warm, and so much to do. I get back to Fargo every X-mas, and I realize when I am home, why I left. I hate the COLD!

Roller28 wrote:
Why do you people have to get so F'n technical? Clean the jets or change them out, I was just trying to help this kid, and yall have to jump up my ass about this! And whether the bike won a championship 10 years ago does not matter, try runinng that bike vs a new 600! You all spend way to much time in doors during the winter time, I swear!
well you said youre from cali...your weathers a lil nicer there so of course we're indoors.

99slowGSX wrote:
Because this is fargostreet and we love drama.........;)

I guess that must be it! Thank you for clarifing!

Roller28 wrote:
Why do you people have to get so F'n technical? Clean the jets or change them out, I was just trying to help this kid, and yall have to jump up my ass about this! And whether the bike won a championship 10 years ago does not matter, try runinng that bike vs a new 600! You all spend way to much time in doors during the winter time, I swear!

Because this is fargostreet and we love drama.........;)

tjamz wrote:
But he also said that race fuel has blown up some engines that can't handle it. All Ethan and I were saying is that Race gas doesn't add HP, it adds safety.
I'm on your side here Chuck, but oxygenated fuel does add HP, with no other changes to the fueling, engine timing, or forced induction.

Roller28 wrote:
He has a jetting problem, not a fuel problem.
If the bike ran fine before, then the jets are correct. It is probably in need of a cleaning and inspection.

Roller28 wrote:
And not to mention it is a carburated CBR 600, it is not ment for a speed demon, it is ment for riding.
Not fast, eh? That bike won the AMA 600 Supersport title in '95.

Roller28 wrote:
If you are the average rider on the street, just run the top pump octane you can buy, otherwise you are wasting your money.
In Roller28's defense, ^ how is this not true? It was my understanding that higher octane fuel was recommended for a bike like jct's.

Roller28 wrote:
First of all, in a street bike you do not want to run straight race gas, you want to mix it 50/50. I have seen way to many engines take a crap because it can not hold up to that gas. GP bikes run this gas for a reason, because the engine can handle it. I still don't see someone getting 5-10 hp from the gas, do you realize how hard it is to squeeze more HP from these bikes, esecially a carburated one! If you are the average rider on the street, just run the top pump octane you can buy, otherwise you are wasting your money.

Funny guy... Word of advice. Dont argue with ethan about bikes, you wont win.

So, you're now probably asking why use high octane fuel if it doesn't add power? The answer is simple: It reduces knock which adds a layer of safety to an aggressive tune. For example, lets say that you can squeeze 200 whp out of a vehicle on pump gas w/ 18 psi of boost before knock, you should be able to run a bit leaner and/or turn up the boost and/or advance the timing if you run C16 which should in turn get you to a higher whp.

As far as straight race gas, what fuel are you speaking of? VP makes over 30 different fuels alone.

And engines taking a crap from race gas? That one is new to me. The only bad thing about a fuel that I've seen is how Nutec will eat through fuel lines if not purged each day.

Oh yeah, and just this spring, Arcane Racing "squeezed" 701 HP from a Hayabusa. Stock was prolly 155-160. So, there's some room to move in the HP department.

2wheeler wrote:
Then I'm gonna have to disagree with you. For highest performance, I would go with a fuel such as VP MR9. It's 87 octane, but you'll prolly see a good 5-10 HP on a dyno with no fuelling changes.

How can you get 5-10 hp out of an 87 octane fuel? Explain...............................

Roller28 wrote:
yes octane levels, they call it grade of fuel such as 89, 90, etc..
Then I'm gonna have to disagree with you. For highest performance, I would go with a fuel such as VP MR9. It's 87 octane, but you'll prolly see a good 5-10 HP on a dyno with no fuelling changes.