SmitEvo wrote:
so who is the F1 driver that is in nascar now? If they are that good, they should win every race.....

I think tony stewart came from F1...cant remember if thats 100% correct tho

oh yea and as far as what racing is best...see brians video in his sig...looks totally sideways when thats what he wanted to do...i'd like to see F1 and NASCAR drivers attempt that...

wannabe wrote:
-F1>any other kind of racing.
I'm going to disagree and say that no F1 driver could find enough balls to ride Moto GP competitively, let alone TT racing. On the flipside, multiple GP champion(250, 500, 990) Valentino Rossi hopped in Schumacher's car and lapped within 3 seconds of Schumacher's time. Schumacher declined the offer to lap Rossi's bike(reportedly due to a sore vagina, j/k )

Some people just need the security of a cage.

STiSchucky wrote:
cliff note
-F1>any other kind of racing.

A modern F1 car accelerates, brakes and corners at speed totally incomprehensible in a road car. In an F1 car at speed, there will be at least one force on him at all times. If he's not accelerating, he's braking, and he's probably cornering as well. The cars will accelerate at about 3g, brake at 6, and cornering could be anything up to 4g. This is comparable to the levels of g-force encountered by a jet pilot. To get some real life perspective, an emergency stop in a road car will not be much more than about 1g. So every part of a driver's body could be experiencing forces of their weight multiplied by 6. The drivers are tightly strapped in; as if they wore no seatbelts at all the force of braking would throw them from the car. According to some driver's experience the force is so much that it is enough to eject a tear from a driver's eye and splash it on the inside of his visor. If you take a human head as weighing about 5kg, and the helmet, which is made as light as possible for this very reason, as about 2.5kg, this normally weighs 7.5kg in total, but if the driver is braking for Monza's first corner, his neck will have to support more than 45kg.Similarly In a long, fast curve like Suzuka's notorious 130R, there is so much centrifugal force pushing laterally against a driver that his head feels as if it weighs about 35kg. But it's not just the neck that gets it; his whole body will have to deal with several times its weight. With all this force on the feet, for example, the driver will still have to be super-accurate on the accelerator and brake pedals, especially if the race is wet.

But it's not only the forces themselves that the drivers have to deal with. Such high G-force will shift the blood in his body around, depriving some areas of oxygen for a short while. This can cause the driver's vision to become distorted slightly, as if it wasn't bad enough with all that oil on the visors and the driver also has to deal with all the bumps in the track and remember that these cars have a total suspension travel of about 4cm, so if there's a bump in the track, they will feel it. At certain parts of circuits drivers will modify their line to prevent a painful jolt from an unusually large bump. A force is also put on the driver if he has to go up a hill, which will compress his spine, furthering his pain. High G-force has devastating implications for safety; lengthy exposure to lateral g-force is dangerous. There have been cases where drivers have complained of dizziness caused due to repeated exposure to 5g during races, so designing of the circuit is also an important factor. There have also been suggestions to provide g-suits to the drivers with inflatable chest and neckpieces to squeeze the arteries and stabilize blood flow to and from the brain in high-g corners.

If all this wasn't enough, the downforce and grip of even the slowest cars means that the force through the steering wheel is enormous. The driver will have to really exert himself to keep it level in high-speed corners, and he will also have to hold it steady on a bumpy straight. All this, but yet again he has to be silky-smooth. This is made yet more difficult with the minimalist cramped cockpits they use.

Through all this, the driver will be completely exhausted. His heartbeat will treble, and he can lose as much as 3kg in the more strenuous race just sweating away. That's like going a day without water. The 3-layer nomex overalls they are required to wear compound this. Many drivers have specially-made overalls with seems moved or removed altogether to prevent painful rubbing during the race.

But of course, the drivers prepare themselves for this. Despite the fact his job involves sitting down all day, an F1 driver is among the fittest of any sportsmen. During the off season, driver train their neck to prepare for that, but driving the car is the only real way to get used to it. By mid-season, drivers no longer need to exercise the neck because racing is doing the job for them. Most drivers will be in the gym for several hours a day, and consequently most have their own gym at home. So if someone aspires to become a Formula 1 driver then they have got many hours of training ahead. It's no coincidence that Michael Schumacher is widely regarded as one of the fittest sportsman in the world.

Formula 1 driver while cornering can pull 4-5g of lateral force. Extra aerodynamic grip is dialed into the car to counter the centrifugal force. This is done by increasing the downward force created by its aerofoil .Both downforce and centrifugal force increase hugely with speed; in the mathematical formulae that govern each, only small changes in speed create large differences in the power of the resulting forces. Negative G loads- forces pushing upward through the car- are rare in Formula 1, although at the top of a corner like Eau Rouge(Belgium Grand Prix) ,an F1 driver may briefly experience minus 1g.

One of the important factors to reduce the centrifugal force is friction, and in Formula 1 friction means making the tyres very sticky. Powerful chemical compounds of oil, rubber, silica and polymers are used to create tyres that can resist huge centrifugal forces. Friction is proportional to the friction coefficient of the material used and the force acting on the ground, so as well as being made of a sticky material, the tyres need to be worked hard to give maximum grip. This is why they have an operating temperature of 100C and above. To handle that kind of heat they are pumped up to only 1.5 bar (a roadcar tyre is usually at 2-3 bar) and inflated with a very dry, dense nitrogen mixture to keep pressure changes to a minimum. Tyre pressure is so important for grip levels that it's said a professional driver can feel a difference as small as 0.05 bar.

G-forces in Formula 1 racing are usually very high and this helps to teach us a lot about more everyday applications. Accident data recorders in Formula 1 routinely show that g-forces experienced by drivers in crashes can go as high as 200g which is theoretically higher than the human body can bear - except that they last for only tiny fractions of a second. The information has helped medical experts to determine that human beings are safe within a tolerance of 160g experienced for no more than 1 millisecond.

weshole wrote:
I don't care how much money is at his disposal. He would NEVER get an F1 ride.

Yup, it's not like you can just buy your way onto a team. F1 drivers (even the worst of them) are amongst the best race drivers in the world, hence the reason they get paid RIDICULOUS contracts not to mention endorsements and such.

Jim wrote:
just the video editing made it look like that, but they didnt really try to hide the fact he had trained more then 1 lesson
I knew that, but I didn't know if everyone else did.

wannabe wrote:
me too, but he also didnt only do 1 class with bobby ore.

just the video editing made it look like that, but they didnt really try to hide the fact he had trained more then 1 lesson

wannabe wrote:
No he didn't, he knew he wouldnt qualify. Personally if he could do anything he wanted why would he chose drifting. F1 FTW!

I don't care how much money is at his disposal. He would NEVER get an F1 ride.