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  • torbsT Offline
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    torbs
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    I believe he told me that he wasn't looking for boost. He's just looking for a good daily motor that can pull a low 14. A strong stock b16 will get that done for him. And judging by his budget, he doesnt have the $ to buy a d-series swap ($300-400 for a motor and $50-100ish for a Si tranny), buy the engine management (safc would be sufficient, which is cheap $100 for a used safc1), plus the turbo kit too...OBD0 b16 swap can be held for $1500...you just have to look. It's also a bit cheaper bc it's a cable tranny. He can also just then buy a stock JDM obd0 vtec ECU after swapping in the motor and be done...sure, is a boosted d-series faster? hell yea...but he didn't ask for anything that's crazy fast...just something quick that's fairly easy...

    B16 FTW!

    and if nothing else, just say you bought the b16 bc it has CRAZY mad loud JDM VTACK y0:icon_cheers: :icon_thumright:

    Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
    Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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    • DWeigsD Offline
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      DWeigs
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      Well my budget is depending on it i can sell my current car and then i will have a little more to spend.... I would like to run something faster. But i want to spend less then $1500. I have been talking to some people about the D series motor boosted and it sounds kind of kool..

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      • PSiedTSiP Offline
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        PSiedTSi
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        96Talon wrote:
        Well my budget is depending on it i can sell my current car and then i will have a little more to spend.... I would like to run something faster. But i want to spend less then $1500. I have been talking to some people about the D series motor boosted and it sounds kind of kool..

        Hands down, the best for your money.

        At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

        92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
        95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
        1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
        Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

        > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
        > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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        • DWeigsD Offline
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          DWeigs
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          #17

          Im still young and learning a lot from a lot of different people.... So the more i listen and people tell me things the more i want to do... So keep the suggestions coming if there is any left to give...
          Thanks a lot to all of you who helped me out!!

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          • PSiedTSiP Offline
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            PSiedTSi
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            #18

            You seem to have a good attitude towards stuff. Keep it up!

            At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

            92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
            95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
            1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
            Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

            > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
            > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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            • DWeigsD Offline
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              DWeigs
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              #19

              PSiedTSi wrote:
              You seem to have a good attitude towards stuff. Keep it up!
              Thanks! I try to learn things and stuff like that before i step into something i dont know nething about. I dont think there is a better local forum then this to ask questions and recieve feedback.....

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              • treimcheT Offline
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                treimche
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                I've said this like 50 times before when people ask for opinions on Honda swaps, and here is mine: complete LS motor/trans swap should run you less than $1000, or buy a whole wrecked integra to take everything out of and then part out the rest of the car, and then get some small slicks, and a small shot of nitrous like a 50 or maybe 75 shot, and you'll run low 13s for very little money. If you can find a good deal on a wrecked integra that you can part out, you will basically get all the parts you want for free, I've done it, twice.

                Troy
                2009 Yamaha R1
                2002 WRX
                2001 Toyota Tundra
                2001 Yamaha R6
                1988 Yamaha YSR 50
                2003 XR50

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                • torbsT Offline
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                  torbs
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                  I like troy's idea the most...LS torque is very nice for DD...and if you want, LS's are known for liking boost also.

                  Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                  Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                  • treimcheT Offline
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                    treimche
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                    Not to mention an LS motor is easily as fast as a B16, if not faster!

                    Troy
                    2009 Yamaha R1
                    2002 WRX
                    2001 Toyota Tundra
                    2001 Yamaha R6
                    1988 Yamaha YSR 50
                    2003 XR50

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                    • JoelJ Offline
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                      Joel
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                      treimche wrote:
                      Not to mention an LS motor is easily as fast as a B16, if not faster!
                      definitly agree. Way better and more usable power band... Then, eventually, U could always go LS-vtec.

                      The b20 would be cool since no one has one around here... but It's gonna cost u more. U ever thought about a dual cam ZC swap. they make 140hp at the crank, same as an ls, and the cool thing is u can use your D series tranny! this way, U can save money by just buying the block.

                      no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                      • BryceB Offline
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                        Bryce
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                        A LS w/B16 tranny, now thats a good cheap combo. My JDM B16a from Hmotorsonline cost $1300 shipped w/Hasport mounts. Then you need, Clutch $250+, Flywheel resurfaced $35, Axles $200, Shift linkage $150, And I would say another $200 for fluids/seals/random shit.

                        I would say a full LS swap w/b16 tranny & clutch would run you around $1300 for a strong LS.

                        If I could do it all again I think I would have went with a 100% stock JDM D15b vtec. Hope this helps.

                        88 Honda crx Si-B16 turbo street car, 06 Civic Si- DD

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                        • DelSlowD Offline
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                          DelSlow
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                          ^ Was that with axles ECU and all the goodies? If so thats a good deal, considering it came with hasports. That and where was it shipped to? Your door?

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                            GHETTOBEAST
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                            i have a buddy who is swappin a JDM D15b into his 91 crx si should be a nice little swap

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                              Bryce
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                              BumpinJCC wrote:
                              ^ Was that with axles ECU and all the goodies? If so thats a good deal, considering it came with hasports. That and where was it shipped to? Your door?
                              It was $1300 shipped to Matt's place w/ mounts. The swap + goodies cost me $2300 total.

                              Axles, Haft shaft, Shift linkage, Exedy S1 clutch, CTR valve cover, Vison CF spark plug cover, Bronze DC headers, random nuts and bolts.

                              All and all I'm happy with it.:icon_thumright:

                              88 Honda crx Si-B16 turbo street car, 06 Civic Si- DD

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                              • JoelJ Offline
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                                Joel
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                                Ur happy with 150 Across???

                                no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                                • H Offline
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                                  Hatchling
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                                  #29

                                  aliengotpsi wrote:
                                  my .o2 buy a z6 or y8 and put head studs in and boost it too 10 psi or build it for around 1000.00 pistons/rods/bearings.... and run 20 psi+

                                  I made 250 whp on 10 psi and ran 12.2@113 tufte made 261whp and ran 11.9@113 there is no all motor B20's b18's b16's that can compete with the D16 boosted it would probly cost your about the same to do a swap or boost a D16..

                                  My D16 now makes 400 whp depending which dyno your on some read low and some high.. and runs 11.5 @125

                                  Looks like my d-16 hatch is the quickest and fastest honda around.!!!!

                                  How does it stop and turn??

                                  2002 R6 115whp
                                  93 Civic Mini Me "Smokey"

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                                    Hatchling
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                                    torbs wrote:
                                    I believe he told me that he wasn't looking for boost. He's just looking for a good daily motor that can pull a low 14. A strong stock b16 will get that done for him. And judging by his budget, he doesnt have the $ to buy a d-series swap ($300-400 for a motor and $50-100ish for a Si tranny), buy the engine management (safc would be sufficient, which is cheap $100 for a used safc1), plus the turbo kit too...OBD0 b16 swap can be held for $1500...you just have to look. It's also a bit cheaper bc it's a cable tranny. He can also just then buy a stock JDM obd0 vtec ECU after swapping in the motor and be done...sure, is a boosted d-series faster? hell yea...but he didn't ask for anything that's crazy fast...just something quick that's fairly easy...

                                    B16 FTW!

                                    and if nothing else, just say you bought the b16 bc it has CRAZY mad loud JDM VTACK y0:icon_cheers: :icon_thumright:

                                    My .02 is b16/b18 with N2O. It is a daily driver and you want reliability just drop a stock motor and leave it stock and then spray at the drags. Done easy swap not retradedly expencive. It is a simple plan.

                                    2002 R6 115whp
                                    93 Civic Mini Me "Smokey"

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                                      Bryce
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                                      wannabe wrote:
                                      Ur happy with 150 Across???
                                      It kept up with Matt's hatch just fine and that ran a 14.3

                                      88 Honda crx Si-B16 turbo street car, 06 Civic Si- DD

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                                      • DelSlowD Offline
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                                        DelSlow
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                                        not what i heard..

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                                        • BryceB Offline
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                                          Bryce
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                                          BumpinJCC wrote:
                                          not what i heard..
                                          Stock exhaust from the d16 and before I had my header.

                                          Launch; I would take a length or two in first then Matt would catch me at the end of 2nd and pull into third.

                                          Fuck it I really don't care.:icon_salut:

                                          88 Honda crx Si-B16 turbo street car, 06 Civic Si- DD

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