Sti vs. Evo
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wannabe wrote:
Pretty sure I would sacrifice a 1/10th of a milisecond for much cooler denser air... and I dont know how you can say it only helps going in a straightline, Heat rises, so with a TMIC, you are heatingsoaking all the time..The TMIC on sti's see very little heat soak because of the way exhaust is removed, and the positioning of the actual IC, TMIC on say MS6 would definitely see difference
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slowvo wrote:
why does everyone think fmic's = lag?them fuckers need to go back to their calculators and physics books. we live in the real world
FMIC doesn't = lag, all the piping required = lag. as you've had to tell yourself many times, every inch counts.
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on a subaru (from experience) going to a FMIC from a TMIC did induce a fair amount of lag because of the stupid long pipes needed to get from the turbo to the front mount back to the throttle body.
All things considered if we are talking USDM, the Evo is the best off the show room floor platform, has a ton of research already done in the US market for its motor and therefore is cheaper to mod.
If we are talking overall STi vs Evo in the JDM world, I'll take a Spec-C S202/S203 over just about any other car on the road in a bang for the buck performance platform.
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Weighing in from my personal experience i'd prefer either since both blow my car out of the water
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tjamz wrote:
on a subaru (from experience) going to a FMIC from a TMIC did induce a fair amount of lag because of the stupid long pipes needed to get from the turbo to the front mount back to the throttle body.All things considered if we are talking USDM, the Evo is the best off the show room floor platform, has a ton of research already done in the US market for its motor and therefore is cheaper to mod.
If we are talking overall STi vs Evo in the JDM world, I'll take a Spec-C S202/S203 over just about any other car on the road in a bang for the buck performance platform.
Ditto
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haha... the 100-300 rpm differnece or whatever you guys think is going to make the shiet spool slower, is bull shit. just as garberg said you'll never noticed a difference ricing it around.
plus, a FMIC looks cooler... and thats what matters right? shit... u dont see a WRX and are like :omg: its freaking sweet it has a top mount... but if you see a big ass shiny front mount :OMG: sweet a big front mount lol... yeah i know im a ricer.
I like kirk's car alot, it feels cozy or something... evo's feel like DSM's... both are cool but I think i'd take the Evo just cuase... fuck i don tknow it'd prob break but id still be happy?
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Jim wrote:
haha... the 100-300 rpm differnece or whatever you guys think is going to make the shiet spool slower, is bull shit. just as garberg said you'll never noticed a difference ricing it around.Jim, from experience....it was a big difference, at least 500 to 600 RPM. When it was cool outside the TMIC was sufficient, once the TMIC got heat soaked the difference wasn't as noticeable in short. Since my TMIC got heat soaked FAST w/ the 18G on, I felt the lag is/was well worth it in the long run and ESPECIALLY for drag racing where lag didn't mean anything since I was full spool on launch anyway, but having a much cooler intake mani temp meant a lot.
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Man I love EVOs and I love STis. Just glad we get to chose from two really great choices on a AWD turbo platform. The evo is easier/cheaper to work on, make faster, and upgrade, but I love my STi. TMICs suck ass on a daily driver level in my opinion, well at least in the summer anyway. You do get heatsoak fairly bad and yes there are ways to combat this, but my favorite way is an FMIC. There's lots of things I want to add to this but I gotta go eat. They are both awesome cars. I just love the boxer rumble
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schultzy last thing you should be doin is eating.
you bowlin tomorrow btw?
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i like both i went with the evo cause there are a lot less around.
sean
06 EVO IX with sun sound and leather package.(RIP)
color: electric blue
mods: WORKS drop in filter and mud flaps :rolleyes:
1/4 mile was 13.3 with a 1.8 60' at 104(all stock) -
MethodlesS wrote:
The TMIC on sti's see very little heat soak because of the way exhaust is removed, and the positioning of the actual IC, TMIC on say MS6 would definitely see differenceGo let a sti idle for 20 mins and it will be heat soaked no go touch a fmic on an evo and wow its cold... hmm tmic sucks dick!!!And turbo lag??? haha you got to be kidding me come drive my evo and after your done lets talk turbo lag.. boosts like a t-25 with the power of a 16g w/ 10.5 cm exhaust side...
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i love it when people say putting a fmic on a 14B dsm loses power. that little turbo wont make enough flow to fill it up!!!
haha.
anyways. i prefer the EVO's looks, drivetrain, ease to work on, ect. but for a DD that you keep stock ide say there pretty damn close
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ever changed a clutch in an evo???? STi wins right there....
the new S204 STi owns all...evo's cant even come close...STi's are just as easy to work on as evo's..
ill give you that the STi's handling and steering is foked but with minor adjustments its pretty good but then its still WITH minor adjustments...
and evo's are for chumps..
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slowvo wrote:
i love it when people say putting a fmic on a 14B dsm loses power. that little turbo wont make enough flow to fill it up!!!haha.
anyways. i prefer the EVO's looks, drivetrain, ease to work on, ect. but for a DD that you keep stock ide say there pretty damn close
The more volume of air you have the longer it will take to compress it...
Just changing to an FMIC doesn't mean you are going to have tons more volume though. The gains you get having less pressure drop will probably overcome the increase in volume. With a small turbo, you shouldn't notice much.
FAH Q wrote:
ever changed a clutch in an evo???? STi wins right there....
the new S204 STi owns all...evo's cant even come close...STi's are just as easy to work on as evo's..
ill give you that the STi's handling and steering is foked but with minor adjustments its pretty good but then its still WITH minor adjustments...
and evo's are for chumps..
I have changed a few clutches in evos...have you? However, I haven't touched an STi, so I can't really compare the two. I do know that working on the evo is easy, I don't get why people say they are hard?
They both have their ups and downs... It all comes down to what you like.
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