So which do you think is more dangerous?

[StangerBanger96]

Marijuana will be legal within 10 years once people start realizing how harmless it is compared to alcohol/tobacco plus all the benefits hemp can provide for this country...anyone who's actually researched it with a more open mindset than "legalize it so I can get high all the time/keep it illegal so kids don't do drugs" will realize it's a very versatile plant that could produce millions/billions of dollars in revenue and wean us off dependence on other countries. The oil is more efficient than ethanol, hemp paper is 7x stronger than wood paper, the seeds are the most nutritious seeds around and birds will eat them first out of any other seed in a mixed pile, etc. etc.

[Jim]

^^ stoner talking

[amicheze]

driving while texting is by far the most dangerous of the three, followed by pot and talking on the phone IMO.

[SmitEvo]

amicheze wrote:
driving while texting is by far the most dangerous of the three, followed by pot and talking on the phone IMO.

well if you were doing pot in the car it would be just as dangerous as texting. if you were already under the influence then not as dangerous.

[HandoEX]

StangerBanger96 wrote:
Marijuana will be legal within 10 years once people start realizing how harmless it is compared to alcohol/tobacco plus all the benefits hemp can provide for this country...anyone who's actually researched it with a more open mindset than "legalize it so I can get high all the time/keep it illegal so kids don't do drugs" will realize it's a very versatile plant that could produce millions/billions of dollars in revenue and wean us off dependence on other countries. The oil is more efficient than ethanol, hemp paper is 7x stronger than wood paper, the seeds are the most nutritious seeds around and birds will eat them first out of any other seed in a mixed pile, etc. etc.
You are out of your mind if you think marijuana will be legalized within 10 years. Silly pot heads. I am not disagreeing with what you are saying but it still won't happen.

[Bookem]

If it could be regulated as far as thc levels in the plant and be used for positive things that would be great. Everyone knows that if it was legalized we would have more zombies running around and less productive activities will arrise

[StangerBanger96]

Obviously if it was legalized driving high would be illegal, it already gets you a DUI in MN if you drive high. Here are some stats you probably DON'T know about hemp/marijuana though...And no i'm not a pothead, not everyone who thinks it should be legalized is a pothead.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=2735017&page=1 (Marijuana is the #1 cash crop in America and it's illegal)

Fuel:

* Farming 6% of the continental U.S. acreage with biomass crops would provide all of America's energy needs.

* Hemp is Earth's number-one biomass resource; it is capable of producing 10 tons per acre in four months.

* Biomass can be converted to methane, methanol, or gasoline at a cost comparable to petroleum, and hemp is much better for the environment. Pyrolysis (charcoalizing), or biochemical composting are two methods of turning hemp into fuel.

* Hemp can produce 10 times more methanol than corn.

* Hemp fuel burns clean. Petroleum causes acid rain due to sulfur pollution.

* The use of hemp fuel does not contribute to global warming.

Food:

* Hemp seed can be pressed into a nutritious oil, which contains the highest amount of fatty acids in the plant kingdom. Essential oils are responsible for our immune system responses, and clear the arteries of cholesterol and plaque.

* The byproduct of pressing the oil from hemp seed is high quality protein seed cake. It can be sprouted (malted) or ground and baked into cakes, breads, and casseroles. Hemp seed protein is one of mankind's finest, most complete and available-to-the-body vegetable proteins.

* Hemp seed was the world's number one wild and domestic bird seed until the 1937 Marijuana prohibition law. Four million pounds of hemp seed for songbirds were sold at retail in the U.S. in 1937. Birds will pick hemp seeds out and eat them first from a pile of mixed seed. Birds in the wild live longer and breed more with hemp seed in their diet, using the oil for the feathers and their overall health.

Fiber:

* Hemp is the oldest cultivated fiber plant in the world.

* Low-THC fiber hemp varieties developed by the French and others have been available for over 20 years. It is impossible to get high from fiber hemp.

* Over 600,000 acres of hemp is grown worldwide with no drug misuse problem.

* One acre of hemp can produce as much usable fiber as 4 acres of trees or two acres of cotton.

* Trees cut down to make paper take 50 to 500 years to grow, while hemp can be cultivated in as little as 100 days and can yield 4 times more paper over a 20 year period.

* Until 1883, from 75-90% of all paper in the world was made with cannabis hemp fiber including that for books, Bibles, maps, paper money, stocks and bonds, newspapers, etc.

* Hemp paper is longer lasting than wood pulp, stronger, acid-free, and chlorine free. (Chlorine is estimated to cause up to 10% of all Cancers.)

* Hemp paper can be recycled 7 times, wood pulp 4 times.

* If the hemp pulp paper process reported by the USDA in 1916, were legal today it would soon replace 70% of all wood paper products.

* Rag paper containing hemp fiber is the highest quality and longest lasting paper ever made. It can be torn when wet, but returns to its full strength when dry. Barring extreme conditions, rag paper remains stable for centuries.

* Hemp particle board may be up to 2 times stronger than wood particleboard and holds nails better.

* Hemp is softer, warmer, more water absorbent, has three times the tensile strength, and is many times more durable than cotton. Hemp production uses less chemicals than cotton.

* From 70-90% of all rope, twine, and cordage was made from hemp until 1937.

* A strong lustrous fiber; hemp withstands heat, mildew, insects, and is not damaged by light. Oil paintings on hemp and/or flax canvas have stayed in fine condition for centuries.

Medicine:

* Deaths from marijuana use: 0

* From 1842 through the 1880s, extremely strong marijuana (then known as cannabis extractums), hashish extracts, tinctures, and elixirs were routinely the second and third most-used medicines in America for humans (from birth through old age). These extracts were also used in veterinary medicine until the 1920s and longer.

* For at least 3,000 years prior to 1842 widely varying marijuana extracts (bud, leaves, roots, etc.) were the most commonly used real medicines in the world for the majority of mankind's illnesses.

* The U.S. Pharmacopoeia indicated cannabis should be used for treating such ailments as fatigue, fits of coughing, rheumatism, asthma, delirium tremens, migraine headaches, and the cramps and depressions associated with menstruation.

* In this century, cannabis research has demonstrated therapeutic value and complete safety in the treatment of many health problems including asthma, glaucoma, nausea, tumors, epilepsy, infection, stress, migraines, anorexia, depression, rheumatism, arthritis, and possibly herpes.

* Deaths from aspirin (U.S. per year): 180 - 1,000 +

* Deaths from legal drugs (U.S. per year) at doses used for prevention, diagnosis, or therapy: 106,000

Industry:

* Almost any product that can be made from wood, cotton, or petroleum (including plastics) can be made from hemp. There are more than 25,000 known uses for hemp.

* For thousands of years virtually all good paints and varnishes were made with hemp seed oil and/or linseed oil.

* Hemp stems are 80% hurds (pulp by-product after the hemp fiber is removed from the plant). Hemp hurds are 77% cellulose - a primary chemical feed stock (industrial raw material) used in the production of chemicals, plastics, and fibers. Depending on which U.S. agricultural report is correct, an acre of full grown hemp plants can sustainably provide from four to 50 or even 100 times the cellulose found in cornstalks, kenaf, or sugar cane (the planet's next highest annual cellulose plants).

* One acre of hemp produces as much cellulose fiber pulp as 4.1 acres of trees, making hemp a perfect material to replace trees for pressed board, particle board, and concrete construction molds.

* Heating and compressing plant fibers can create practical, inexpensive, fire-resistant construction materials with excellent thermal and sound-insulating qualities. These strong plant fiber construction materials could replace dry wall and wood paneling. William B. Conde of Conde's Redwood Lumber, Inc. near Eugene, Oregon, in conjunction with Washington State University (1991-1993), has demonstrated the superior strength, flexibility, and economy of hemp composite building materials compared to wood fiber, even as beams.

* Isochanvre, a rediscovered French building material made from hemp hurds mixed with lime petrifies into a mineral state and lasts for many centuries.

* Archeologists have found a bridge in the south of France from the Merovingian period (500-751 A.D.), built with this process.

* Hemp has been used throughout history for carpet backing. Hemp fiber has potential in the manufacture of strong, rot resistant carpeting - eliminating the poisonous fumes of burning synthetic materials in a house or commercial fire, along with allergic reactions associated with new synthetic carpeting.

* Plastic plumbing pipe (PVC pipes) can be manufactured using renewable hemp cellulose as the chemical feed stocks, replacing non-renewable coal or petroleum based chemical feed stocks.

* In 1941 Henry Ford built a plastic car made of fiber from hemp and wheat straw. Hemp plastic is biodegradable, synthetic plastic is not.

The main reason it's illegal is due to DuPont not wanting competition for their paper sales in the early/mid 1900's. It was a subsidized crop during portions of WW2 even due to its wide usage possibilities. It's less dangerous than alcohol (can't overdose), not chemically addictive like tobacco, and doesn't cause permanent damage like harder drugs (meth, heroin, crack).

[Bryce]

You can get a DUI for driving high? How can they test for that

[ichibankilla]

I could be wrong but about a month or so back I remember something on the news about a limited number of farmers in ND being able to grow hemp for "legal" comsumer use.

[Guest]

You forgot that Dorito and Mt Dew sales would skyrocket, making Frito Lay and Pepsi two of the richest companies in the world.

[ichibankilla]

tjamz wrote:
You forgot that Dorito and Mt Dew sales would skyrocket, making Frito Lay and Pepsi two of the richest companies in the world.

And don't forget that the oil companies would go belly up because nobody would want to leave there house, just smoke,eat doritos,drink dew, and watch cartoon network all day.

[StangerBanger96]

Assuming everyone started smoking pot. Studies have shown that the # of smokers pre and post ban would not be significantly different..IE there wouldn't be too many new smokers compared to what there already are. Being as 45% or so Americans admit to having tried it once. You're also assuming everyone would be high 24/7 when in reality it would probably be treated similarly to alcohol, a recreational high for weekends/parties/etc.

[Bryce]

Don't for get to use a towel!

[Guest]

I havent tried it nor will I ever try it. Nothing positive comes from doing drugs. If you like pot more power to you. I just hope you dont kill some one.

Doesnt pot make you paranoid? I think it does. Seeing you holding that gun and smoking pot makes me think twice. I understand that the picture is your avitar. Whats to say someone else had a weapon and smoked pot?

[amicheze]

StangerBanger96 wrote:

• Deaths from marijuana use: 0

not true. a man in germany died as a direct cause of smoking excessive amounts of marijuana over an extended period of time. no cigarettes, no other drugs. granted he was the only man ever known to die as a directly from smoking too much pot, its still possible.

<stir>

[StangerBanger96]

amicheze wrote:
not true. a man in germany died as a direct cause of smoking excessive amounts of marijuana over an extended period of time. no cigarettes, no other drugs. granted he was the only man ever known to die as a directly from smoking too much pot, its still possible.

<stir>

A review of his autopsy overruled that original ruling. They couldn't link his death to marijuana usage.

As for being high and using guns, I will say this...you're not as retarded as they make you out to look. Sure i've tried it, do I do it regularly? No. I do it probably 4-6x a year. Draw your own conclusions from that if you want but the thing is, you're not out to shoot someone or anything. You don't feel invincible, you don't feel like shooting anyone/anything. The main thing you feel like doing is laughing and eating. You're drawing conclusions off of what anti-drug ads tell you. Thats like drawing your own conclusion on gun control based off just what the brady campaign tells you, basing politics off of just what the democrats tell you...you have to look at things from both sides.

Granted there are people who overly abuse the drug, and it's sad yes. Whether or not it's illegal though they are still and will still do it. The plant has potential to do 1000x more good than harm, plus it's a way to increase revenue as well as decrease our dependence on foreign goods. Think about the legalization from more than just the "you smoke it to get high" perspective.

[PSiedTSi]

StangerBanger96 wrote:
Marijuana will be legal within 10 years once people start realizing how harmless it is compared to alcohol/tobacco plus all the benefits hemp can provide for this country...anyone who's actually researched it with a more open mindset than "legalize it so I can get high all the time/keep it illegal so kids don't do drugs" will realize it's a very versatile plant that could produce millions/billions of dollars in revenue and wean us off dependence on other countries. The oil is more efficient than ethanol, hemp paper is 7x stronger than wood paper, the seeds are the most nutritious seeds around and birds will eat them first out of any other seed in a mixed pile, etc. etc.

I did my senior research paper on that and I actually got Mrs. Ferguson on board after reading my paper.

Dustin, I believe FAR more than 45% of Americans have tried it. I think it is more in the 80-90%'s...

[StangerBanger96]

PSiedTSi wrote:
I did my senior research paper on that and I actually got Mrs. Ferguson on board after reading my paper.

Dustin, I believe FAR more than 45% of Americans have tried it. I think it is more in the 80-90%'s...

Stoner...

...lol

[btleier]

ok..... there is one side of the story. now post the negatives, if we're going to make this a true discussion.

[SPANISH-RICE]

Americans Would Get Even Fatter