Why Fargo?
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HandoEX;162476 wrote:
Dude, your screen name in your sig is spelled wrong:icon_thumright:hahaha:icon_geek:
Youngin you forgot one thing...we also live by the largest concentration of nuclear missile silo's in the US too. The Dakota's would be obliterated if a nuclear war ever happened:icon_flower:
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PineInchNenis69;162482 wrote:
hahaha:icon_geek:Youngin you forgot one thing...we also live by the largest concentration of nuclear missile silo's in the US too. The Dakota's would be obliterated if a nuclear war ever happened:icon_flower:
havnt they deactivated most of them?
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Who knows. Even if they say they have who knows if they really have...why would they spend all that money to build them just to shut them down, I doubt that we'd really disarm. Either way, I'd be willing to bet Russia or whoever attacked us (if anyone ever did) would take care of this area just to be safe. At least we'd get a pretty fireworks show before we were turned into ashes

I do know my dad had to work on some of the silos awhile back and had to go through extensive background checks and sign some secrecy affidavits(sp) or whatever before he was allowed to work in there.
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didnt a guy buy a missle silo and turned it into his house?
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SmitEvo;162483 wrote:
havnt they deactivated most of them?
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I've been here my whole life except for maybe 6 months when I was a baby. It's not too big, but not too small either. It's just the right size where if you want to go out shopping, you don't have to make it an all day event by driving 20 miles while fighting crazy amounts of traffic. If there were more great jobs in this area I would probably stay here my whole life, but I'll more than likely end up moving to the cities after school.
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I moved up here 6 years ago this summer. Originally for summer school i was 16 at the time my family in arizona told me it would be better because of my dad, I come to find out im stuck in this hell hole!!! I never liked here the day i got off the plane! Yes i do have good friends and a very beautiful woman that i met up here and she and them are the ones that are keeping me here, if it were different i would be back home going to school and hopefully running my own buisness. I do plan on doing this in a year or so. I miss the west so much there is 50 times more things to do there then here. Hell going to san diego,L.A.,santa barbra etc...is about the same time travel as from here to the cities and thats doing 80 all the way. I dunno i guess this shit hole has grown on me but i cant wait to go back home and start my family!
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I moved here from New Jersey when my mother started teaching at MSUM, after graduation i moved to San Diego, then i moved back for free college. Now I'm married and own a house here. When my children all get to schooling age I'll leave here again.
Whatever people say about this place, it's not that bad. I've been to just about everywhere of note in the USA, this place is as good as any. More positives then negatives anyway.
I do miss the mountains though.
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HandoEX;162476 wrote:
Dude, your screen name in your sig is spelled wrong:icon_thumright:Thanks for telling me that. I did not even notice:o . I'll fix it.
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PineInchNenis69;162482 wrote:
hahaha:icon_geek:Youngin you forgot one thing...we also live by the largest concentration of nuclear missile silo's in the US too. The Dakota's would be obliterated if a nuclear war ever happened:icon_flower:
during the cold war had north dakota decided to pull away from the union and become a country it would have been the single most powerful country in the world.
and yes, it's getting to the point where most if not all silo sites have been demolished. The only one I know off the top of my head that may still be atleast somewhat active is between hope and colgate ND. I believe it was some sort of control center for the area and was somewhat active with a military presence up until the late 90s. I haven't been by there since but I believe the buildings on site were still standing as of a couple years ago.
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I live here because my fathers parents lived here and we wanted to come home before his cancer got to him. I've been here ever since (I was 6). I like it here, weather isn't bad, I mean we all complain about it but really, we have a good 8 months of the year that don't totally suck. Crime is low except for the jackasses that want your $50 car stereo. It's cheap to live here and the jobs pay pretty well. I live here cuz I like it I guess.
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It would be interesting to see how many of you have actually gotten out of the area / lived somewhere else for an extended period of time.
I know Chris has and a few other of you have lived different places, but I can't stand Fargo. There is a huge lack of diversity and culture, but many people who live there don't see it becuase they are surrounded with people with similar backgrounds and interests.
Anyway, I'd never live on the North Dakota side anyway...
Nuclear silo's are not the major target for nuclear attack, atleast from what I've read becuase most of them are built to withstand everything but a direct hit... which would be a waste of a missle. The main targets would be largely populated cities etc...
If I'm remembering correctly, if a Nuclear war happened with another major power, many of the missles would be detonated not on the ground (where they may have the capability of destory a silo) but high above a populated area, designed to kill a large area with fallout. Regardless, the nuclear strike capabilities of the US are nowhere near dismantled, nor is there a dire need to maintain thousands upon thousands of nuclear weapons under the old theory of deterance as the soviet union no longer exists.
We still have more then enough missles to blow the world up a few times over, and during a nuclear war retaliation would not be aimed at dis-arming every nuclear weapon but destroying the country... Hence the whole cold war.
Anyway, Fargo is cold as shit, everybody is a lutheran (not a bad thing just saying), despite what you think theres very little "culture," and it has that small town appeal (which is very appealing for some, while not for others). Oh, and its conservative as all hell.
I lived in the twin cities when I was little, then New York, moved to moorhead, and then back to the Twin Cities. I'm sure I'll end up on one of the coasts... NYC or West Coast somewhere.
That being said, growing up in Fargo wasn't an all bad experience... although I feel like I missed out on alot.
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Jim;162624 wrote:
It would be interesting to see how many of you have actually gotten out of the area / lived somewhere else for an extended period of time.I know Chris has and a few other of you have lived different places, but I can't stand Fargo. There is a huge lack of diversity and culture, but many people who live there don't see it becuase they are surrounded with people with similar backgrounds and interests.
Anyway, Fargo is cold as shit, everybody is a lutheran (not a bad thing just saying), despite what you think theres very little "culture," and it has that small town appeal (which is very appealing for some, while not for others). Oh, and its conservative as all hell.
Let's see....
Lutheran? Check.
Culture? Check
Conservative? Check, check, check.
Sounds perfect if you ask me.
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HandoEX;162636 wrote:
Let's see....Lutheran? Check.
Culture? Check
Conservative? Check, check, check.
Sounds perfect if you ask me.
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I'd kill myself if I had to live in some extremely liberal city like San Fran or Boston or anything like that. -
Jim;162661 wrote:
It's cool. Thats why there are places like Texas and Fargo for you :icon_flower:Not saying I'd want to grow up in an uber-con area either. Maybe you just met the wrong people up here because I know plenty of extremely liberal people around the area. Up here is more moderate than many places you'll find...you honestly would like to live in a place like SanFran?
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What did you miss out on?
I grew up in Kentucky, went to school in nebraska, worked in st. louis for a summer, lived in Redmond for a few years, and now live here.
My wife and I love fargo. We were thinking we'd move to the Twin Cities within a year of moving here but after the year was up we had no interest in ever living in MSP.. visiting it as often as we do you really get the sharp contrast of all of its shittyness... traffic, high cost of living (for almost no payoff vs a real city like manhattan).... socially i'm not thrilled with it either.
A nice thing about fargo's "lack of culture" : we're not in the middle of a race/culture war being fought out in the media. (i.e. no Somali Cab driver fiasco here)
Fargo is great because you can afford to live within walking distance of downtown, and there's "enough" to do for how often we go there, and the walk and the atmosphere is safe. It's rare to find a downtown area that is worth going to, safe enough to go to, and cheap enough to live in/near, but fargo has it. Granted, I'm married and don't drink, so my expectations of a "developed" downtown area are different than lots of peoples, but we're at Nicole's almost every week.
An interesting thing.. when i lived in redmond, there were way more people with much nicer cars... and more race tracks near by... and the salary / cost of living strucutre was higher.. but i was also busier and wasted more time getting places. Since living here I've been to the track way more than when i lived out there... even though here there are fewer track events and they are further away. (we've got BIR @ 3 hrs and MAM at 5hrs.. vs seattle where you've got PR in <1 and PIR in ~3).
There's certainly some truth in the suggestion that many people in ND never leave ND for any amount of time, but some of us have lived elsewhere and still like Fargo.
In my opinion, the biggest disadvantages of fargo are:
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depressed wage and COL structure meaning fewer real dollars for non-COL adjusted goods (like cars. Professionals in big cities have nice cars because their COL is a commensurate percentage of their inflated salary, ,but the real dollar value of the 8% (or whatever) disposable income they have is higher than in a place like Fargo.. yet cars cost the same real-dollar amount everywhere)
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a side effect of the above - real estate is a poorer investment here than in some other places.. we had like a 25% return on our house in redmond after living there for 18moz..
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