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  • SmitEvoS Offline
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    SmitEvo
    wrote on last edited by
    #37

    forget that scanner, if you dont have both 02 sensors in you are going to run very rich. Go to www.o2simulator.com and buy a simulator this will help the code and correct your a/f. Also invest in a boost gauge and an AFC.....then you can tune it properly.

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    • JoelJ Offline
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      Joel
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      #38

      an AFC isnt tuning properly....

      no race car? becuz homeowner...

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      • SlowicaS Offline
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        Slowica
        wrote on last edited by
        #39

        at least then you know whats going on though, with an AFC. I think he was gonna either switch back over to the stock cat or a high flow, aren't those o2 simmulators kinda of a hit or miss?

        1993 240sx hatch - project/money pit
        1998 Grand Cherokee LTD - Winter beater

        N/A is the expensive way to go slow

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        • K Offline
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          KA-T_240
          wrote on last edited by
          #40

          wannabe;163683 wrote:
          an AFC isnt tuning properly....

          We already know that.

          But, unless he is attempting to compensate for larger injectors or other mods, why get an AFC? There is something that is causing the car to have this problem. By using the AFC to fix it, all you are doing is putting a band-aid on it.

          I highly doubt your injector pulse rates have anything to do with it. they are controlled by your ecu. Having a bad ecu could affect this, but is probably not that likely. If you had a diesel vehicle it would be more common to have problems related to injectors or the pulse rate. What brought you to onto the idea of checking the pulse rates????

          Have you checked your MAF, and for boost/vacuum leaks? Also did this happen after you swapped to a differant BOV or intake or something like that? if so put it back to how it is an see if it has the same problem.

          PM me for:
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          • SmitEvoS Offline
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            SmitEvo
            wrote on last edited by
            #41

            wannabe;163683 wrote:
            an AFC isnt tuning properly....

            well go buy aem then...works fine for what he would need it for.

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            • SlowicaS Offline
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              Slowica
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              #42

              lol well i didn't really go into trying to check pulse rates unfortunatley the eclipse didn't have many sensors to get readings from. he did just get a new bov on but i think he was having the problems before that my thoughts were boost leak, maf, or maybe some bad / dirty injectors. i thought the wierd pulse rate may have shown something wrong with the injectors but ya, it was just a random guess. i guess he had it checked out by a mechanic who said there were no boost leaks so the other cause would be the maf. idk does anyone have a maf we could swap out with to see if thats the problem or would the scanner show the maf reading wrong through low voltage leves or anything?

              1993 240sx hatch - project/money pit
              1998 Grand Cherokee LTD - Winter beater

              N/A is the expensive way to go slow

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              • MisterCMKM Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #43

                What all did you datalog?

                FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                > thrash;315544 wrote:
                > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                >
                > Ford is back :)

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                • SlowicaS Offline
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                  Slowica
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #44

                  lol cant really remember all of it. like i said barely had any time with it. there really wasn't very much to monitor or nothing helpfull at least. thats why im giving you things like the pulse widths. the eclipse wasn't even giving us rpms or the usual things you would want to monitor. when i had my celica hooked up it was everything you could ever want and more. eclipse its like battery voltage and random things like fuel tank preasure. hopefully we can take it out again tomorrow though and i can get more time to check things

                  1993 240sx hatch - project/money pit
                  1998 Grand Cherokee LTD - Winter beater

                  N/A is the expensive way to go slow

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                  • K Offline
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                    KA-T_240
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #45

                    check the boost leaks your self. you can build a tool for like $5.

                    why did he change the BOV?

                    PM me for:
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                    • K Offline
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                      KA-T_240
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #46

                      SmitEvo;163688 wrote:
                      well go buy aem then...works fine for what he would need it for.

                      OWNED. and what SmitEvo says is true.

                      but before you do that get your self a wideband and boost gauge.

                      PM me for:
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                      Diesel repairs or performance products.

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                      • PSiedTSiP Offline
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                        PSiedTSi
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #47

                        We have a MAF here to test. An O2 simulator simply shows the ECU that the cat is working correctly. It gives it a constant voltage reading like the second O2 would be doing.

                        Was this done at full throttle? I know when I tested it myself, it seemed to drive fine after a few minutes. Definately check boost leaks.

                        At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                        92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                        95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                        1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                        Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                        > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                        > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                        • SlowicaS Offline
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                          Slowica
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #48

                          not my car lol he has has a cheep boost gauge though. anyways with the set up he has now i thought a boost leak would be very possible and why did he change the bov? to make it louder of course :icon_geek:

                          1993 240sx hatch - project/money pit
                          1998 Grand Cherokee LTD - Winter beater

                          N/A is the expensive way to go slow

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                          • K Offline
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                            KA-T_240
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #49

                            well, if there wasnt a leak before and you mess with stuff, then that could change that. and you have no idea if the mechanic he took it to could actually test it.

                            PM me for:
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                            Diesel repairs or performance products.

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                            • SlowicaS Offline
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                              Slowica
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #50

                              ya i was just going off of what he said, we will check it for boost leaks tomorrow.

                              1993 240sx hatch - project/money pit
                              1998 Grand Cherokee LTD - Winter beater

                              N/A is the expensive way to go slow

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                              • 91nbtsi9 Offline
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                                91nbtsi
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                                #51

                                I would bet it has a somewhat large boost leak. It fits the symptoms perfectly.

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                                07 Mega Cab 5.9 CTD

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                                • SmitEvoS Offline
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                                  SmitEvo
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #52

                                  PSiedTSi;163698 wrote:
                                  An O2 simulator simply shows the ECU that the cat is working correctly. It gives it a constant voltage reading like the second O2 would be doing.

                                  Ding, ding, ding, johnny we got a winner.........why else would you put it in:icon_geek:

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                                  • MisterCMKM Offline
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                                    MisterCMK
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #53

                                    I believe that the ECU requires the O2 sensor to switch between .7 or whatever and 0 otherwise it will set a code

                                    FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                                    > thrash;315544 wrote:
                                    > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                                    >
                                    > Ford is back :)

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                                    • blindsp1B Offline
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                                      blindsp1
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #54

                                      with the test pipe the check engine light was on..then i cleared it about 3 months ago and it hasent come on since.....but i need to find a stock cat for cheap first...because the test pipe doesnt do anything anyway..

                                      95 eclipse gs=sold:icon_cheers:
                                      99 eclipse gst spyder=SOLD!!!!!!:icon_thumright: :icon_farao:
                                      Old Car: 1995 honda civic EX SOLD
                                      New Bike: 08 zx-6r FOR SALE
                                      New G6: Project BLACK OUT! Sold
                                      05 Yukon

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                                      • SmitEvoS Offline
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                                        SmitEvo
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #55

                                        blindsp1;163727 wrote:
                                        with the test pipe the check engine light was on..then i cleared it about 3 months ago and it hasent come on since.....but i need to find a stock cat for cheap first...because the test pipe doesnt do anything anyway..

                                        or just get turbo back 3 inch exhaust.....

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                                        • P Offline
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                                          PSI2HI
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #56

                                          blindsp1;163727 wrote:
                                          with the test pipe the check engine light was on..then i cleared it about 3 months ago and it hasent come on since.....but i need to find a stock cat for cheap first...because the test pipe doesnt do anything anyway..

                                          The cat is not the root of your problems. From what Frank was saying you have your BOV duct taped on and you hacked up the stock plastic IC pipe to make it all fit up. For starters, fix that setup right and move on from there.

                                          "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                                          "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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