ANOTHER person killed by train...
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I was at work when the kid from Concordia got hit, we listened to it over the radio while waiting to change crews in Dilworth. Today my brother calls me (he also works for BN) to see if I was on the train that hit the guy today. I have mixed feelings about the whole deal but my heart goes out to the families of the deceased and the train crews involved.
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sucks for both of the people....but trains can be quiet...so i can see how the person couldnt hear it.
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I knew Adam Bertek. good guy, havent spoken to him since for a good 6-7 years since basketball camp but damn, terrible how it happened.
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Turbo5Oh;169778 wrote:
it sucks for family and friends but jesus if u cant see, hear, or feel a train coming u shouldnt be walking near them. i know its easy to say now. but it just shows how one simple decision can end a life
Its kinda hard to hear or see a train comin the other way when one is just ending.Bertek was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Theyre still investigating if the train blew the whistles, but everyone knows theres another set of tracks within a block of that.
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STiSchucky;169810 wrote:
Its kinda hard to hear or see a train comin the other way when one is just ending.Bertek was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Theyre still investigating if the train blew the whistles, but everyone knows theres another set of tracks within a block of that.
I think that applies more to the guy that got hit today. He was elderly so maybe his hearing was off and his eyes sucked or whatever but you'd still be able feel it you'd think. The ground definitely shakes within a decent distance of a train. Either way it's a sad ordeal...
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I can vouch for trains being hard to hear. I parked on some tracks at a stop light in Grand Forks a couple years back and didn't see or hear the train until the gates started going down on top of my car. I even had the windows down and no music on. It surprised the shit out of me.
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when u see these dont hang out on the tracks
dont get me wrong i dont wanna offend anybody but its pretty simple everybodys parents tought them to look both ways before crossing the street. plain and simple it was a bad decision, i wish they didnt have to learn this way but this is the kind of things that can happen when u make a bad decision
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It's a little weird how often trains basically interrupt life in F/M. It's crazy that you've got a multi-minute long train rolling through downtown, cutting the main drag (broadway) in half like every 10 minutes. We live closer to 13th ave than main street but we hear the damn train whistles all night anyway.
You wouldn't think it would be too hard to route the tracks out of the middle of downtown. Especially since there's no freight consumers right downtown, and passenger rail is a joke in the US. In German cities its common for the above-ground long distance passenger rail lines to go underground once they hit the edge of downtown. The Hauptbanhof ("central rail station") in Munich extends several stories underground, in addition to a huge above ground rail yard. But pedestrians never have to cross tracks, and cars never have to stop for them either (except for Trams, and only at certain weird intersections).
It's just a different way of building cities. Fargo grew up around the railroad first, and then expanded according to the assumption that everyone had a car and would drive everywhere all the time.
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#1 Tracks were here first so technically the town should have to move, not the trains
#2 Next time a train stops in the middle of town, especially for 10+ minutes, I will make it my personal duty to execute the entire crew of that train (unless they stopped because they hit somebody) -
PineInchNenis69;169954 wrote:
#1 Tracks were here first so technically the town should have to move, not the trains
#2 Next time a train stops in the middle of town, especially for 10+ minutes, I will make it my personal duty to execute the entire crew of that train (unless they stopped because they hit somebody)There are so many factors involved in why trains get stopped in Fargo Moorhead it's retarded. Believe me in no shape or form do we (the train crews) want to be blocking crossings at all. If it was up to us, there wouldn't be any crossings at grade. Just over/under passes. And if you ever entered the cab of my engine with harmful intentions it would be the last thing you would do.
Basically the track situation in the FM area sucks ass. Minneapolis St. Paul has a much better setup with many over and under passes. It used to not be that big of a problem when trains were 30 cars or less. But nowadays with damn near every train being 1 mile+ long the lack of forsight by city planners in making more over and underpasses is kicking everyone's ass. Also rerouting track around town has been discussed before between the BN and the state/city. But it would cost an unbelievable amount of money As said the tracks were here first and they aren't going anywhere unless someone else foots the bill which is exactly how the railroad sees it.
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Sweet-WRX-Lovin;170035 wrote:
There are so many factors involved in why trains get stopped in Fargo Moorhead it's retarded. Believe me in no shape or form do we (the train crews) want to be blocking crossings at all. If it was up to us, there wouldn't be any crossings at grade. Just over/under passes. And if you ever entered the cab of my engine with harmful intentions it would be the last thing you would do.I was joking about that, like I would ever do that. It does piss the hell out of me though. I already told Shane (Seven1) that I hated it and he told me that it's the dispatchers fault for the in town stops rather than the engineer/conductors.
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To those who think that trains are easy to hear...think about this, when track crews go out to do welds/whatnot on a section of track they put out remote signalers (don't know the technical term...one of you RR guys will have to correct me here) on the tracks to alert the crew of trains coming their direction. I know quite a few people that work for the rail, and it seems like all of them have close call stories about not hearing a train until it was right on top of them.
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More than hearing or seeing though...I work 3-4 blocks away from train tracks and the building shakes when trains go by.
On our windows in our house, which is 1 mile away from the tracks, before they started building up the field right in our backyard the ornaments on our windows would lightly rattle against the window when trains would go by. I don't understand how you couldn't FEEL it coming.
I can see the welders and such that deal with it on a daily basis getting used to it but non RR people I don't quite understand.
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Yeah sorry I blew up man I was pretty tired. Today is the first day I finally got some good sleep in 7 days.
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Anyone hear the story about the guy in LA that tried to kill his girlfriend by stopping their car on the tracks so she'd get hit by the train that was comming? Karma kicked ass in this instance...the girl survived and the guy died when the train threw the car into his sorry ass while he was trying to get away.
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