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out there wrote:
i can see what nick means about not wanting to bother with making a drag car, it isn't very hard to go 10s (with the right parts, of course).Ha ha ha...... I'm guessing someone hasn't tried to go 10's.
How many people on this board have ran a 10? Nate, Me, ???
ps: nice lex... it needs a turbo.
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YellowEvo wrote:
i dont get why you say its easy to make cars 10s easily and yet your pushing high 13's.....because i have other priorities besides throwing money away on a car. there are many ways to make a 10sec car (in this case, a dsm), all of them cost more than i feel like spending in a short span of time.
in a cost/benefit analysis of the situation, i'd much rather spend money on books, games, musical equipment, etc than on a car. -
Just to clarify a few inconsistencies in this thread:
-First off, there aren't many 1kWHP Supra's. Only 3 I can think of
-Second, none of them started life as an NA
-Third, yes, "single" turbo Supra's make more power than stock twin supra's but....
-Fourth, in theory, 2 turbo's (aftermarket) should make more power than 1 aftermarket turbo, all things being equal. But I'm not sure that's actually proven
-Fifth, its not easy going 10's. The only way its "easy" is if you have a ton of cash to dump, which no one on this board does.
-Sixth, Nick's car is sweet, I wouldn't worry about everyone busting your balls, Nick, to build this as a 500+ whp car. Not many people on this board have even gotten in the 12's much less 11's or 10's..
Brett
Fvckin machine took my quarter
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DaveH wrote:
Ha ha ha...... I'm guessing someone hasn't tried to go 10's.How many people on this board have ran a 10? Nate, Me, ???
ps: nice lex... it needs a turbo.
Turboing this car really isn't a priority for me right now. We're expanding to another 1500 sq ft here in January which then gives me the extra space to start doing some larger projects and more production fabrication pieces. W/ that in mind i need to purchase some more equipment. After all that is said and done then maybe just maybe i'll turbo the IS ;-).
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Dangler wrote:
-Fourth, in theory, 2 turbo's (aftermarket) should make more power than 1 aftermarket turbo, all things being equal. But I'm not sure that's actually provenbut i don't think spoolude understands why a company would use a sequential twin-turbo setup instead of a single large turbo
-Fifth, its not easy going 10's. The only way its "easy" is if you have a ton of cash to dump, which no one on this board does.
i didn't feel the need to be really specific, but it's not exactly difficult to build a dsm capable of 10s. lots of power, very little material besides the chassis, drivetrain, engine and seat... ta dah. like i said though, there's more than one way to do it.
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out there wrote:
but i don't think spoolude understands why a company would use a sequential twin-turbo setup instead of a single large turbo.Sequential turbo's where used in the Supra TT to give it the illusion of a V8 - basically to make the power band a little smoother. Now you can get an aftermarket twin turbo kit that is not sequential, like the infamous Ken Henderson has with his HKS kit. (http://www.sp-power.com/projectcar_kh1073.htm)
out there wrote:
i didn't feel the need to be really specific, but it's not exactly difficult to build a dsm capable of 10s. lots of power, very little material besides the chassis, drivetrain, engine and seat... ta dah. like i said though, there's more than one way to do it.
Hmmmmm, I'll let Nate\Nick or Alien comment on that, but yeah, its all about how much money you want to spend, just like any car.Fvckin machine took my quarter
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$$ isn't even half of it. You need $$, you need knowledge, and you need everything to mesh together! Anybody can buy parts. You still gotta tune the car, make the power, get the power to the ground and have everything work flawlessly. Not as easy as it sounds.
I could go out and buy all the parts i need right now to make my Civic run 9's. Because i have the parts does that guarntee me 9's?? No way in hell. Everyone thinks its all just a bolt on affair.
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Its not worth arguing over. Money, time, and priorities determines who has a "fast" car. For some its important, others its not. There are only 2 people I really know who have the "right" combination to get in the 10's with their cars. For everyone else, it doesn't happen. Keep in mind, for those 2 people, their "fast" cars aren't their daily drivers.
Personally, I HAD preferred to have a nicer, slower car (12.3 et), than a higher mileage, older, faster car. My priorities have changed and so will my choice of cars....
Back to the thread... If Nick chooses, he could turn it into a 700 whp car. He has the knowledge, the access to Dave (who has done it) and the access to the tools. The only question is if he wants to spend his $$ on building his business or on this car.
Best of luck..
Fvckin machine took my quarter
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PSI2HI wrote:
$$ isn't even half of it. You need $$, you need knowledge, and you need everything to mesh together! Anybody can buy parts. You still gotta tune the car, make the power, get the power to the ground and have everything work flawlessly. Not as easy as it sounds.i realize it's not simple bolt-ons that make a car that fast. what i also realize, is that the greater part of intelligence is admitting when you don't know anything, and knowing where to look/go for the knowledge/information/answer you seek.
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Why not ask Kevin or Nate how easy it is to go 10's. Kevin tried with his DSM and didn'y make it. (YET) and Nate took a couple of seasons to finally get there. Both have the resources and the know-how. other than Nate who sold his gem now, (SHAME ON YOU) Dave is the only other one that I know in the area that's been to 10's. Ask him how easy it was to get there.
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i said he does for like 2nd time..
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98exaccord wrote:
Do you know me?All I'm saying is that whatever an "appliance man" does, it takes alot of that to build a 10 second car. Even with my income, I'd have to dedicate way more $$$ they I would care to to build a 10 second car. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm better then you are, or that I make a ton, but although stereotypical I would guess that 98-99% of people could not make a 10 second car.
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btleier wrote:
All I'm saying is that whatever an "appliance man" does, it takes alot of that to build a 10 second car. Even with my income, I'd have to dedicate way more $$$ they I would care to to build a 10 second car. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm better then you are, or that I make a ton, but although stereotypical I would guess that 98-99% of people could not make a 10 second car.whatever im not gonna even start anything
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I had the power this year to go 10.9999999999s... I didn't get anywhere near it. Shit broke, shit wasn't the way it was supposed to be, but thats racing, and thats why we race. Just keeping pushing yourself.
Money being put aside I can deifnately say even trying isn't for the faint of heart. At any minute something can let loose and there is never enough money to fix it instantly, but what do you do?
I say keep the IS300 what it is.... a NICE quiet cruiser.
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