Welders
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You insulted my schooling. Just cause you went to a certified college doesn't mean shit to me. Whoopie you got a piece of paper that say you can weld. Now no doubt you are a good welder(ive seen your work) I just don't see the point of going to a 2 year school when I can learn alot of the industry in 2 weeks and be able to hold my own. Go ahead tell me I can't weld and that im stupid and I don't know anything about welding. I know what I know and ive only been in this industry for under 3 months. But I guess ill take my 2G cert that i already have and go sulk cause im a horrible welder. I need to find a new career I guess.
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24valvenotak;191487 wrote:
I wouldnt want a doctor standing over me in the ER calling for someone that COULD weld titanium, had ATTEMPTED to weld titanium, or even KNEW how to weld titanium, because he only went to daves school of welding for eight weeks....thats 2 weeks buddy, 80 hours. -
zac you are a good welder, this everyone can agree on. but you have made yourself out to be a elitest asshole in this thread.....
so word to the wise let the whole my school is better then your schooll BS die...
because we all know i will own your ass in tig......:D
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PSI2HI;191550 wrote:
If you have half a brain and hand eye cordination you can be decent @ Mig the first day using it.Hands on experience is gonna own schooling ANYDAY!
Hey Nick, you own/operate a fab shop that competes on a national level, how much school have you, your fab crew and your finish welders had?
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wannabe;191564 wrote:
Hey Nick, you own/operate a fab shop that competes on a national level, how much school have you, your fab crew and your finish welders had?None, we're self taught.
FYI you don't have to take a class to get cert'd since everyone keeps talking about school to get a piece of paper.
You could walk in my door tomorrow and say i took this class went to this school, i gte this certificate but its not gonna matter im gonna walk you back to the machine and tell you to lay me a bead. Schooling and papers mean nothing to me if you cant run a bead. Exactly why i did't go to college i cant concentrate reading a damn book and writing a written test but give me the work hands on and i'll do it.
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Being we're on the subject...does anyone on here have a tig, and would be willing to give a crash course on how to do it and let me do some practicing...I could pay for materials or something if needed. I've always wanted to learn tig, since our school only did mig, arc, and oxy-acytelene welding in metals class.
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bubba;191592 wrote:
Being we're on the subject...does anyone on here have a tig, and would be willing to give a crash course on how to do it and let me do some practicing...I could pay for materials or something if needed. I've always wanted to learn tig, since our school only did mig, arc, and oxy-acytelene welding in metals class.Oxy acytelene has the same initial concept as TIG, practice up on that and get to learn a rythm of making a puddle and you'll be 10 steps ahead when you try TIG
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PSI2HI;191574 wrote:
You could walk in my door tomorrow and say i took this class went to this school, i gte this certificate but its not gonna matter im gonna walk you back to the machine and tell you to lay me a bead. Schooling and papers mean nothing to me if you cant run a bead. Exactly why i did't go to college i cant concentrate reading a damn book and writing a written test but give me the work hands on and i'll do it.In most cases, this piece of paper which means nothing, gets you a lot better jobs for bigger companies a lot faster than if you just walked in and said "I can weld give me a welder". Its just like any other industry/profession.
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arguing with all you guys who fit the description, "school just isnt for me" about whether or not attending school is beneficial is like banging your head against a wall.
especially since everyone who says they are "self taught" has undoubtedly picked up their laptop and researched the hell out of welding, tufte and "rookie fab" included... so its sort of hard to say you had no instruction or schooling, no matter how informal, of any kind. the better the peer advice, the more time spent practicing and researching what works and doesnt and why = education. your dumb if you dont put that same effort into a slip of paper that says your not an indiot. /end of story.
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owning your own shop and putting out products to prove you are in fact talented is a slightly different situation, because he has already shown everyone he is in fact, not an idiot.
people who want to work at dmi etc benefit from that slip of paper, just as joel stated since he walked into the place making more then people without it... why? because it says something about him....
so how now, is education, or that slip of paper, worthless?
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24valvenotak;191627 wrote:
owning your own shop and putting out products to prove you are in fact talented is a slightly different situation, because he has already shown everyone he is in fact, not an idiot.people who want to work at dmi etc benefit from that slip of paper, just as joel stated since he walked into the place making more then people without it... why? because it says something about him....
so how now, is education, or that slip of paper, worthless?
You can walk in and take a cert test, you dont have to have gone to school to get certified in welding. Now those that have no backround in it and have never done it probably aren't going to just figure it out.
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SmitEvo;191638 wrote:
http://www.in-forum.com/articles/index.cfm?id=181682§ion=businessschool is good? +1
school is lamesauce? 0
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Do i need to post the stats about how much more a person makes as education increases??
Sure there are people with no formal education doing very well for themselves, but typically it involves a lot more hard work, and on average, the person with a formal education will make significantly more. (Im referring to education in any field, not specifically welding.)
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