Ron Paul
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SmitEvo;198492 wrote:
See now your stereotyping that all colleges students do is get drunk and have sex with women and not focus on schoolwell, i was mostly trying to be funny, and i was trying to point out that "luxury" and "education" aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. How many people here are 1st-generation college students? Maybe your parents or their parents didn' go to college and had a perfectly wonderful life.
Basically, I object to the idea that everybody has the "right" to attend college and that the government is going to pay for it if need be.
If the government was not in the business than major financial institutions would be charging us alot more in interest. If you compare any of my federal and private loans, the higher interest rate goes to the private companies.
A good investment is still a good investment at a slightly higher rate? Maybe if the cost of college is just a little bit dearer, people will take it more seriously? I agree that you and I probably won't take this argument anywhere.. and getting rid of financial aid isn't something i feel strongly about either way. I mostly wanted to respond to below...
In my opinion this is just better for the American Public so we can keep up with other countries education levels and keep our jobs and not give them to some immigrant who moved here because we are not skilled enough to perform the job.
Ok, here, I think you are 100% off base.
America is great because of the people that work hard, not because of who gets born here. I want every single smart, hard working person from every other country to come here. That makes life better for all of us, and it continues to make America the #1 place to live.
I want people who are lazy, who expect others to pay for them, and who expect that by virtue of where their parents got knocked up they ought to have their butt wiped for them from cradle to grave.... i want those people OUT.
The American dream isn't being born in America and having an easy life.
The American dream is coming to America, where a free society will unbridle you to do your best work, to be all that you are capable of, and to be rewarded with the fruits of your own labor.
You better beleive i want the smartest people from around the world coming here and "taking jobs".
The only reason you and I aren't speaking German right now is because Germany unfortuneately decided to make it very difficult to be a Jewish scientist early in the 1900s. We developed our nuclear program with their people before they developed their own.
Smart people are attracted to a free society where the fruits of ones own labor and intellect are rewarded. We want to attract the best talent from all over the world, not ensure that Larry Whitebread never loses his job to a "furrener".
But this isn't even a zero-sum game. There's no reason we cannot import smart people, develop our own smart people, and have useful roles for people that aren't world-wide super geniuses. The issue is about attitude, not about capability. And people with an attitude of entitlement are choking this country to death..
If you're talking about keeping illegal immigrants out, I'm right there with you. But for people that want to get here legally so they can work, we need to make that dirt simple. And for people that are high-power-earners with high-demand skills, we need to be recruiting them from other countries, and not doing the crazy crap we do now that makes it so hard for them to get here and stay here.
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inspector01;198490 wrote:
How much will they have to cut to get rid of income tax if they don't replace it with something?? I understand they would save some by just cutting the programs and the ppl working for them, but i doubt if it will make up for how much they are no longer bringing in.Bring spending levels down to what they were in 2000...The federal income tax only accounts for 1/3 of the total federal budget...meaning if there was no federal income tax, the feds would still have $1.8 trillion to spend...
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GarageAlchemist;198444 wrote:
i wasnt eligible for any federal aid this year because my parents income, parents who dont help me pay for school at all. so i really dont care about money from the government, all ive done is pay them so far in my life time.Im in the same boat my dad who claims me as a dependant pays my car insurance that is it nothing more has not given me a more than 50 bucks since i started college. Him making 100,000 plus dollars a year get me no financial aid shitty situation.
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bubba;198483 wrote:
You can get into college with bad act or sat scores...just not gonna be some high end one...I think some community colleges dont have a cut off....and if u cant do good on them you'll get buried in college anyways...As far as getting into college not sure how prestiguos people think NDSU is but you can be mildly retarded and make it into that school. They recommend certain GPA's or ACT scores but the will still let people in anyways.
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http://ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=7479052
Although I understand that they could have interviewed 300 people or 300,000 people. Regardless, it is more publicity for Ron Paul, and shows he does have some support nationwide.
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91teggy;198550 wrote:
As far as getting into college not sure how prestiguos people think NDSU is but you can be mildly retarded and make it into that school. They recommend certain GPA's or ACT scores but the will still let people in anyways.Aren't we Mr. High and Mighty?
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Im not trying to be a dick im stating facts those are not requirements they are guidelines that they start at. My roommate my freshman was only allowed to take 10 credits and one of them was like math 99 adding subtracting multiply and divide. No shit i help him do it.
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I beleive it's common for state schools to have admission policies with provisions like "anyone from this state will be admitted as long as they can pay for it". Not sure what NDSU has but it wouldn't surprise me to find some language like that in the admissions documents.
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All the local campuses are easy as shit to get into...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG_HuFtP8w8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DqY8iIxe2c
Awesome videos. Let me know if you want to see more, or just go to YouTube.com.
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Bassplayer;198344 wrote:
Ron Paul sucks. I was really into him at first, but then I did some research about him. Acouple things that really pulled me away from him where that he wants to pull out of the United Nations and leave everything to all the other countries. Another thing is he wants to get rid of government sponsored things like COLLEGE FINANCIAL AID, medicare, and social security.Do you know how the United Nations works? The UN does almost nothing to help us as Americans, and in some occasions, even subverts our own Constitution with UN declarations.
Think about this for a second: what is financial aid? Isn't it just money loaned to you by the government at interest? It works like a massive cycle. The government taxes your money in taxes, the loans it back to you in order to fund your inflated education, all the while collecting interest on the money they've loaned you. I don't know if you have a job or not, but the amount I pay just in taxes every year would cover a full year at school. I don't agree with Ron Paul 100 per cent on everything; just on the things I think are most crucial for this country. Medicare and social security need massive reform and/or deletion as well. If you have anymore questions, just let me know.
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StangerBanger96;198684 wrote:
All the local campuses are easy as shit to get into...Yes, I agree; and it's starting to anger me. NDSU is becoming flooded with students they don't have the infrastructure to handle. I think education is an important thing, however college degrees are becoming diluted at an increasing rate. A change to the way we pursue education in this country is needed.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvirM1goFq4&feature=related
^^^ Awesome CNBC interview about Ron Paul on monetary policy vs. Ben Bernanke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNH5Xy8_0NM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZsZ0_OLer4&feature=related
^^^more CNBC analysis with Dr. Paul. IMO they're great.
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^ +1 to everything to everything u just said. The UN is basically trying to make ever country abide by the laws they decide on, and not what that country wants. There is practiacally no point to even have "countries" if everyone is going to have the same laws and/or currency anyways. For example the UN is pressuring all the countries to ban guns...
PS reshalghoul, are u Jordan?
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bubba;199047 wrote:
^ +1 to everything to everything u just said. The UN is basically trying to make ever country abide by the laws they decide on, and not what that country wants. There is practiacally no point to even have "countries" if everyone is going to have the same laws and/or currency anyways. For example the UN is pressuring all the countries to ban guns...PS reshalghoul, are u Jordan?
Why what a good guesser you are.
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Ron Paul did a 1hr interview with Glenn Beck last nite. You can see all the clips here
http://www.dailypaul.com/node/15343
Beck is kind of middle of the road on Ron Paul (at least coming into the interview).
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Well this race is over. Time for Huckabee and Giuliani to lock the doors and board up the windows
--WWE superstar Kane has gone public with his endorsement of Ron Paul for President in 2008. The Big Red Machine explains: If you’re like me, you’re tired of unnecessary and exorbitant taxes, you’re tired of the dollar constantly losing purchasing power, and you’re alarmed when politicians demand that we surrender our constitutionally protected civil liberties, especially the bedrock principles of habeas corpus and due process, in exchange for “security.”
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