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wanting to carry for that "just in case" situation does somewhat make sense to me becuase i can see how times like virginia tech and the other situations maybe could have been diffused earlier if someone would have had protection.
what im saying is carrying everyday, especially around here, is more than likely going to make a situation much worse once someone finds out about the weapon in the event of a disput or something. them finding out that if you have your weapon, even if your not unholstering it or trying to show it, might make them think they should have theirs out. at that point they may fear for THEIR life. and then what?but to be fair i can see how a situation where if someone wants to start something with you and you dont want any part of it the intimidation factor may help end the problem. unless they really dont like you and get their "equalizer" for next time.
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integra_gsr98;231797 wrote:
It is Utah.
Bader and I both went to the Utah class and took the ND test at the same time.
Doh!
Yeah Utah!
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080815/us_nm/texas_guns_dc
Teachers who wish to bring guns will have to be certified to carry a concealed handgun in Texas and get crisis training and permission from school officials, he said.
Recent school shootings in the United States have prompted some calls for school officials to allow students and teachers to carry legally concealed weapons into classrooms.
The U.S. Congress once barred guns at schools nationwide, but the U.S. Supreme Court struck the law down, although state and local communities could adopt their own laws. Texas bars guns at schools without the school's permission.
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teachers and STUDENTS?
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SPANISH-RICE;231812 wrote:
wanting to carry for that "just in case" situation does somewhat make sense to me becuase i can see how times like virginia tech and the other situations maybe could have been diffused earlier if someone would have had protection.
what im saying is carrying everyday, especially around here, is more than likely going to make a situation much worse once someone finds out about the weapon in the event of a disput or something. them finding out that if you have your weapon, even if your not unholstering it or trying to show it, might make them think they should have theirs out. at that point they may fear for THEIR life. and then what?but to be fair i can see how a situation where if someone wants to start something with you and you dont want any part of it the intimidation factor may help end the problem. unless they really dont like you and get their "equalizer" for next time.
The point of carrying concealed is that nobody will find out about the weapon. That is why it is concealed. You also never unholster the weapon unless you intend to fire it. To get to that condition you sure as well be positive that someone is trying to take your life. Just flashing your gun to stop a situation or scare someone is brandishing and is against the law, whether you have a CCW permit or not. You cannot intimidate someone with your weapon it is a last line of self defense and that is it.
Also even in the event of something like Virginia Tech or the mall shootings, if it is nowhere near around me I'm not going to go looking for the trouble. I'm going to get to safety as fast as I can. People w/ CCW permits are not out to play cops and robbers.
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SPANISH-RICE;231823 wrote:
teachers and STUDENTS?For handguns you'd have to be 21+ to carry anyways so only college campuses would have students carrying. I know at NDSU I could walk through the parking lot and see shotguns leaning up against trucks as kids were cleaning pheasants off on their tailgate.
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StangerBanger96;231840 wrote:
For handguns you'd have to be 21+ to carry anyways so only college campuses would have students carrying. I know at NDSU I could walk through the parking lot and see shotguns leaning up against trucks as kids were cleaning pheasants off on their tailgate.Actually ND is an 18+ state for CCW. However, you cannot legally purchase a handgun FROM A DEALER until you are 21. Private party sale of handguns to someone 18 years old is legal. Of course you also have to be 21 to buy handgun ammo so if you don't look the part it's gonna be hard to shoot a gun w/out any bullets.
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So if you take the Utah class, you still have to take the ND one as well? I've been talking about doing this since I turned 21, and am kind of getting the itch. Plus, then it gives me a reason to actually own a handgun, and we all know how much fun it is to go blow through a few rounds at the range.
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blasting rounds at the range is pretty much the shit
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PSiedTSi;231865 wrote:
So if you take the Utah class, you still have to take the ND one as well? I've been talking about doing this since I turned 21, and am kind of getting the itch. Plus, then it gives me a reason to actually own a handgun, and we all know how much fun it is to go blow through a few rounds at the range.Although you don't need the ND permit if you have the UT one, it is best to have the permit of the state that you are in because it makes verifying the permit much easier.
Really the best recommendation would be have ND, MN, and UT if you are located around here. I still have to take my MN test but I need to switch my drivers license over now as well.
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PSiedTSi;231865 wrote:
So if you take the Utah class, you still have to take the ND one as well? I've been talking about doing this since I turned 21, and am kind of getting the itch. Plus, then it gives me a reason to actually own a handgun, and we all know how much fun it is to go blow through a few rounds at the range.I'm almost looking forward to being able to legally own and purchase my handgun that I've had since I was 12 more than I am to legally drink next year...
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integra_gsr98;231879 wrote:
Although you don't need the ND permit if you have the UT one, it is best to have the permit of the state that you are in because it makes verifying the permit much easier.Really the best recommendation would be have ND, MN, and UT if you are located around here. I still have to take my MN test but I need to switch my drivers license over now as well.
Oh ok, makes sense. I definitely do travel often in ND/MN, so that does sound like a safe bet.
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sitn2lo;231845 wrote:
hey guys this might be a dumb question but i had 3 missed calls today from the cass county jail.... is there ne way that the guy could have got my number off the statements or anything like that ..could be a dumb question just wondering tho.Are you afraid you did something wrong? If the cass county jail is calling it might be a good idea to answer.
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MisterCMK;231953 wrote:
Are you afraid you did something wrong? If the cass county jail is calling it might be a good idea to answer.He's thinking the meh-he-can't that got arrested might somehow have his information and was trying to call him from the jail...
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thats what it sounded like to me^
maybe he was calling you for bond money
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