Bike Accident on 25th
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Link;236493 wrote:
But her inexperience is also to blame here. You cannot put 100% of the fault on the biker. Bottom line. End of story.I disagree. It could easily have been me getting hit. It MIGHT have been partly her fault, but from my POV, it clearly wasn't.
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IF it were you in that situation, i'm willing to bet you would have enough common sense to let the moron biker pass before attempting to cut into traffic.
At the age of 15, you don't have that much experience behind the wheel.
My .02 is the inexperience has a factor in this whether it's a small amount or a large amount, it is still a factor.
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I find it so funny that you are too dumb to accept the fact that she couldnt see him or judge his rate of speed correctly. I find it even funnier that your BLAMING her for not seeing him or his rate of speed, but he OBVIOUSLY didnt see a fucking ESCALADE? WTF is going on in your head? its a 6500lb SUV and he didnt see it to miss it? But wait, the girl didnt see something the size of 1 person doing 80mph during rush hour. Good god, its quite obvious that HE was the one not driving defensively, and HE was the one that could have easily avoided the situation. Therefore it was HIS fault
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Where did I EVER say that he did not see the SUV? I didn't. So you fail.
I'm not blaming her for not judging his rate of speed correctly, I'm saying she should maybe be driving a bit more defensive.
Do I think he got what was coming to him? Yes. It was completely unacceptable for what he was doing.
But how about instead of saying it's 100% the bikers fault, how about you biker haters just look at the other side and realize that maybe, JUST MAYBE, a 15 yr old girl with a friend in the car was probably distracted by 1 of many things. Let me list them for you:
- Friend
- Stereo
- Cell Phone
- Changing CD
Want me to list more?
Don't get me wrong, I feel a huge majority of this blame is put on the biker, but as in ANY accident, it's not 100% his fault. She is at fault in some sort or another.
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Bump for round two:
InForum wrote:
DILWORTH – Emergency responders have taken a 55-year-old Glyndon, Minn., man to a Fargo hospital following a motorcycle accident east of here.Patrick Fortier was headed westbound on U.S. Highway 10 at the interchange with Minnesota Highway 336 when he tried to avoid a jug of motor oil that was left on the highway, according to Minnesota State Trooper Jesse Grabow.
Fortier lost control and ran off the road, suffering cuts and scrapes to his head, Grabow said.
The plastic jug of motor oil had been crushed and vehicles traveling the road were transporting leaking oil onto the interchange, Grabow said.
Initial dispatch reports stated that a semi was involved in the accident, but were incorrect. A few semis were in the vicinity when the accident occurred, but were not involved, Grabow said.
Fortier was not wearing a helmet and his condition was not immediately known.
His injuries are not considered life threatening, Grabow said.
A Minnesota Department of Transportation crew will be sent out to clean up the oil
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Link;236510 wrote:
But how about instead of saying it's 100% the bikers fault, how about you biker haters just look at the other side and realize that maybe, JUST MAYBE, a 15 yr old girl with a friend in the car was probably distracted by 1 of many things. Let me list them for you:- Friend
- Stereo
- Cell Phone
- Changing CD
Want me to list more?
Don't get me wrong, I feel a huge majority of this blame is put on the biker, but as in ANY accident, it's not 100% his fault. She is at fault in some sort or another.
There again you are making assumptions on what the girl was doing. Based on the information provided we only know that she was involved in the accident and ran home due to shock after the fact and her dad then brought her back. Anything else is simply an assumption.
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Link;236510 wrote:
Where did I EVER say that he did not see the SUV? I didn't. So you fail.YOUR SO FULL OF FAIL, all youre doing is thinking of random stuff this girl COULD have done but you have waaay less proof against her than for the rider. in fact you have NONE aginast her other than what youre hoping. ur saying its her fault for not seeing a bike but by not commenting on the fact that he didnt see the escalade then shes in the wrong?
Link;236510 wrote:
I'm not blaming her for not judging his rate of speed correctly, I'm saying she should maybe be driving a bit more defensive.she could have been driving like a 40 year old librarian, for all you know (which unlike youre trying to impy is very little). defensive driving cannot prevent an idiot going from the speed limit a good amount of distance away to speeding right up on you on one wheel.
Link;236510 wrote:
Do I think he got what was coming to him? Yes. It was completely unacceptable for what he was doing.then shut the fuck up already
Link;236510 wrote:
But how about instead of saying it's 100% the bikers fault, how about you biker haters just look at the other side and realize that maybe, JUST MAYBE, a 15 yr old girl with a friend in the car was probably distracted by 1 of many things (that your assuming). Let me list them for you: .- Friend you dont know what the friend was doing
- Stereo you dont know that it was on
- Cell Phone you dont even know she had one, maybe why she ran home?
- Changing CD a poor assumption you are making, she could have been baking cookies to huh?
Link;236510 wrote:
Want me to list more?sure?
Link;236510 wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I feel a huge majority of this blame is put on the biker, but as in ANY accident, it's not 100% his fault. She is at fault in some sort or another.dont bring up other accidents, we arent. no one had ANY proof against the girl. this is why they are blaming the biker. you sound like you fancy yourself a pretty smart guy, i would've assumed youd have better debate skills. you use alot of fallacies that force me not to take your comments seriously, cause they make no sense.
there is literally NO evidence against her, but LOTS against him. so please shut up about something you know nothing about.
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Lots against him eh?
Lets see..
- He was doing a wheelie
- He was speeding
thats it. 2 things isn't lots. nice try.
if you weren't a retard, you would realize that back on page like 15 i stated that EVERYTHING in this thread is pure assumption. so how about you go on and bitch about every other opinion someone has on here while your at it? Ok cock bag? kk thanx bai!
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Link;236529 wrote:
Lots against him eh?Lets see..
- He was doing a wheelie
- He was speeding
thats it. 2 things isn't lots. nice try.
if you weren't a retard, you would realize that back on page like 15 i stated that EVERYTHING in this thread is pure assumption. so how about you go on and bitch about every other opinion someone has on here while your at it? Ok cock bag? kk thanx bai!
then why are we on page 32?...
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tjamz;236158 wrote:
I drive the road every single day. I am well aware of the intersection. He accelerated early and was traveling (by my estimate) 80mph on impact. Bikes can get to those speeds quickly, right? Is it not possible that he was distracted with doing something other than paying attention to the road in front of him (balancing maybe...staring at the speedo perhaps?) and just plain ol' fucked up.I wanna know where you pulled this "80 mph" crap from? Are you just the world's best at eyeballing linear motion from over 400 feet away with buildings blocking half your view? Here's a free physics lession for you:
I'm just estimating an '04 600RR can accelerate 0-60 mi/hr in about 3.2 seconds. So, the distance from 32nd Ave to 30 1/2 Ave is about 300 feet -- give or take a bit.
Using Vf = Vi + at we can solve for his acceleration.
Vf = 60 mi/hr
Vi = 0 mi/hr (he took off from the light at 32nd heading north, as you say)
t = about 3.2 sConverting 60 mi/hr into feet/s we get 88 ft/s --> solving the equation as 27.5 ft/s^2 or 8.382 m/s^2.
Using Vf^2 = Vi^2 +2ad we can solve for his final velocity.
Vf = unknown
Vi = 0 m/s
a = 8.382 m/s^2 from above
d = about 300 feet or 91.44 mSolving the equation and correctly converting we get a final velocity over an estimated 300 feet as 39.15 m/s or 87.576 mi/hr. However, this is ignoring any friction and assuming he's a perfect rider -- not likely.
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