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    Parker;244104 wrote:
    honestly... what kind of change do you want to see?
    take your time to think... because off the top of you're head im betting you dont know... but go ahead and deny what is so true...

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    > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
    > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
    > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
    > You are right Parker.

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        Parker;244121 wrote:
        take your time to think... because off the top of you're head im betting you dont know... but go ahead and deny what is so true...
        The economy is a good place to start. Have you been paying attention to it?

        The lack of jobs, the fact jobs pay too low, the stock market, foreclosed homes, wasting money on an unnecessary war, etc...

        Not to mention I'd like to see changes when it comes to health care and illegal immigration....

        The standard stuff I'm sure you'd agree with me on if you're being honest....

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          All Hail The Führer

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            If you think things couldn't use improving right now, you have zero respect for this country.

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              Just saw this thread...but what I want to see....

              Equal percentage rate income tax across the board

              corporations paying their share of taxes (IOW, close some damn loopholes)

              lose the incentives for companies to incorporate overseas vs here

              more oversight regarding banking, not to protect the people from themselves, but to protect them from others

              an end to the war in Iraq. You can't defeat an idea....Hitler tried that with poor success w/ his genocide attempt on the Jews

              a solid energy plan that includes searching for new, reliable, efficient sources of alternative energy

              a continuation of the farm program that ensures cheap food for everyone in this country. I don't want my food prices jerked around like the gas prices. I'll pay $.10 more today to save $.20 tomorrow thank you.

              an end to the Patriot Act...or at least a total revamp of it

              funding for no child left behind...seriously, we are going to cut funding for schools that aren't up to par...how is that going to help?

              Someone who is going to stand up for all of the aspects of the constitution...but realizes that some things aren't as black and white as our founding fathers thought they might have been.

              An end to the borrow and spend tactics of the current administration. I'd rather see tax and spend than borrow and spend.

              Someone with the balls to sit down with the leaders of countries we don't agree with politically, rather than just overthrow them. It worked with Russia who was a greater threat than any of these little piss-ant middle eastern countries...I don't see why Reagan was able to do it, but somehow we think that the next (or current) president won't be able to.

              Someone who has a plan to make healthcare more affordable and catastrophic care more available.

              Someone who is willing to work towards stopping illegal immigration.

              This is what I want from my country. This is what I want from my president. Neither candidate offers a total package, but one is a hell of a lot closer than the other.

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                tjamz;244134 wrote:
                Someone who is going to stand up for all of the aspects of the constitution...but realizes that some things aren't as black and white as our founding fathers thought they might have been.

                So the truth shows itself....

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                  tjamz;244134 wrote:
                  Just saw this thread...but what I want to see....

                  Equal percentage rate income tax across the board

                  corporations paying their share of taxes (IOW, close some damn loopholes)

                  lose the incentives for companies to incorporate overseas vs here

                  more oversight regarding banking, not to protect the people from themselves, but to protect them from others

                  an end to the war in Iraq. You can't defeat an idea....Hitler tried that with poor success w/ his genocide attempt on the Jews

                  a solid energy plan that includes searching for new, reliable, efficient sources of alternative energy

                  a continuation of the farm program that ensures cheap food for everyone in this country. I don't want my food prices jerked around like the gas prices. I'll pay $.10 more today to save $.20 tomorrow thank you.

                  an end to the Patriot Act...or at least a total revamp of it

                  funding for no child left behind...seriously, we are going to cut funding for schools that aren't up to par...how is that going to help?

                  Someone who is going to stand up for all of the aspects of the constitution...but realizes that some things aren't as black and white as our founding fathers thought they might have been.

                  An end to the borrow and spend tactics of the current administration. I'd rather see tax and spend than borrow and spend.

                  Someone with the balls to sit down with the leaders of countries we don't agree with politically, rather than just overthrow them. It worked with Russia who was a greater threat than any of these little piss-ant middle eastern countries...I don't see why Reagan was able to do it, but somehow we think that the next (or current) president won't be able to.

                  Someone who has a plan to make healthcare more affordable and catastrophic care more available.

                  Someone who is willing to work towards stopping illegal immigration.

                  This is what I want from my country. This is what I want from my president. Neither candidate offers a total package, but one is a hell of a lot closer than the other.
                  so all in all... you want the government to control more of your life....

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                  > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                  > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                  > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                  > You are right Parker.

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                    zbrown;244136 wrote:
                    So the truth shows itself....

                    I don't see how that is a problem. I think the last AWB was overdone, but some of the gun control/ownership background checks that came out of it were good. I really don't see another one actually passing.

                    Many of the things that are spelled out in the constitution and Bill of Rights (BoR) are subject to logical over-ruling.

                    For example:

                    Free Speech: You can't yell "fire" in a movie theater, you can't threaten the lives of others, etc....

                    Right to keep and bear arms: You can't carry a gun into a school, you can't own a nuclear weapon, you can't drive with a gun hanging out the window of your vehicle

                    Search & Seizure: If a cop smells pot in your car or sees you commit a crime in your home through a window, they can search your home/car and confiscate any evidence

                    States Rights: This gets trampled on every day by our gov't either directly or indirectly (such as taking away state funds for not enforcing a seat belt law, drinking age or other federally mandated changes)

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                      Parker;244138 wrote:
                      so all in all... you want the government to control more of your life....

                      Show me the more gov't control in what you quoted: (all in Blue are gov't control, red are more freedoms/lower taxes) those left in normal text can be argued as being either side.

                      tjamz;244134 wrote:
                      Just saw this thread...but what I want to see....

                      Equal percentage rate income tax across the board

                      corporations paying their share of taxes (IOW, close some damn loopholes) 2/3 corporations pay ZERO corporate taxes...tax them at a flat rate as well

                      lose the incentives for companies to incorporate overseas vs here

                      more oversight regarding banking, not to protect the people from themselves, but to protect them from others

                      an end to the war in Iraq. You can't defeat an idea....Hitler tried that with poor success w/ his genocide attempt on the Jews

                      a solid energy plan that includes searching for new, reliable, efficient sources of alternative energy

                      a continuation of the farm program that ensures cheap food for everyone in this country. I don't want my food prices jerked around like the gas prices. I'll pay $.10 more today to save $.20 tomorrow thank you.

                      an end to the Patriot Act...or at least a total revamp of it

                      funding for no child left behind...seriously, we are going to cut funding for schools that aren't up to par...how is that going to help?

                      Someone who is going to stand up for all of the aspects of the constitution...but realizes that some things aren't as black and white as our founding fathers thought they might have been.

                      An end to the borrow and spend tactics of the current administration. I'd rather see tax and spend than borrow and spend.

                      Someone with the balls to sit down with the leaders of countries we don't agree with politically, rather than just overthrow them. It worked with Russia who was a greater threat than any of these little piss-ant middle eastern countries...I don't see why Reagan was able to do it, but somehow we think that the next (or current) president won't be able to.

                      Someone who has a plan to make healthcare more affordable and catastrophic care more available. (EDIT AFTER THE FACT: But also leaves health care as a private entity and is not out to have uniform/automatic healthcare) Though I'd argue this should be in red as it will SAVE taxpayers money vs the current system.

                      Someone who is willing to work towards stopping illegal immigration.

                      This is what I want from my country. This is what I want from my president. Neither candidate offers a total package, but one is a hell of a lot closer than the other.

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                        tjamz;244141 wrote:
                        Show me the more gov't control in what you quoted: (all in Blue are gov't control, red are more freedoms/lower taxes) those left in normal text can be argued as being either side.

                        hmm you seem to have the constitution statement in red......... am i missing something

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                          almost all of it looks like its controled from the goverment to me...

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                          > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                          > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                          > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                          > You are right Parker.

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                            zbrown;244143 wrote:
                            hmm you seem to have the constitution statement in red......... am i missing something

                            Nope. Following the constitution doesn't infringe on rights. Realizing that the framers had no concept of what a nuclear bomb is and that the average joe plumber probably shouldn't have access to them is the example of how the constitution isn't black and white. I clarified it in more detail in the other post I made in this thread. Please learn to read so that you may better and fully comprehend what my points are in regards to this (and most) political matter.

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                              Please explain this to me, oh "end of the world is coming cuz all corporations will move over seas" conservatives. Why have we lost more jobs overseas SINCE the Bush tax cuts than prior to? I mean, with all the money that they should have saved, there should have been millions of jobs created rather than shipped away....right? Isn't that the theory? We had 6 years of total conservatism (I use that term loosely...I should say current republicanism) and what we saw was a destruction of the middle class in this country.

                              Fuck George W Bush and fuck the majority of the current republican party (and a good portion of the Democratic party as well).

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                                why have big corps moved overseas?

                                umm.... cheap labor? perhaps? thats not going to change...

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                                > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                                > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                                > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                                > You are right Parker.

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                                  I'm not the most articulate man in the world. I'm not the richest, I'm not the poorest. I work hard for my money. I've worked hard for the opportunities in my life. Anything I can do to give another the ability to do so I will back 100%. I don't believe in handouts, yes some people need help in dire situations, but the system is abused. I think a man should be entitled to the fruit from his toil.

                                  Nothing is or ever will be perfect. Obama or McCain, neither will solve anything. I believe one will bring us closer towards my beliefs or at the least stop us from taking a step closer to what I do not.

                                  One part of the original post that hasn't been touched... The Media's effect on public opinion. I watch the news and can almost smell the bias.

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                                    actually, that is only part of the issue parker...cheap labor has always existed overseas and always will. Perhaps it was our willingness by the current administration to do business with a communist state such as China that opened the doors to even more sweat shops, shoddy items, etc..

                                    read this article (I read the article in last month's readers digest...I'm just posting a link because I think it is a good read) and tell me there isn't more we could do to ensure that corporations set up here rather than abroad.

                                    http://www.rd.com/content/printContent.do?contentId=101737&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=500&width=790&modal=true

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                                      uman44;244159 wrote:
                                      One part of the original post that hasn't been touched... The Media's effect on public opinion. I watch the news and can almost smell the bias.

                                      When I do watch the news, i always feel that there is a right leaning bias in many cases...not CNN or ABC, but I never watch them.

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                                        tjamz;244160 wrote:
                                        actually, that is only part of the issue parker...cheap labor has always existed overseas and always will. Perhaps it was our willingness by the current administration to do business with a communist state such as China that opened the doors to even more sweat shops, shoddy items, etc..

                                        read this article (I read the article in last month's readers digest...I'm just posting a link because I think it is a good read) and tell me there isn't more we could do to ensure that corporations set up here rather than abroad.

                                        http://www.rd.com/content/printContent.do?contentId=101737&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=500&width=790&modal=true
                                        i have read that before... i get readers digest... lol... if corps want to go overseas.... you just cant stop them...

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                                        > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
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                                        > You are right Parker.

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                                          Parker;244167 wrote:
                                          i have read that before... i get readers digest... lol... if corps want to go overseas.... you just cant stop them...

                                          Very true.. Incentives or no incentives, what's going to stop them? We still are a huge exporter of goods regardless.. But remember how many times you get something and read that it was made in China, look at their economy now.. A complete economic BOOM! Basically they are / were such a boomer they were a very big reason (along with other 3rd worlds coming to a booming economy) for the rise in gas prices.

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