2009 Perfect 10 Show

[FG2]

Chirp5957;264227 wrote:
"The show takes place in very low lit surroundings, with each car/club providing a different 'theme' to their display. Whether extensive lighting, tv's, or models are used is completely up to the entrant, however entering the show without some sort of display tends to make for harder viewing. "

does this mean you have to be in a car club?

do you have to have lighting and what not?

The answer given for this response is correct. It makes no difference if you are in a club or not. I guess the only difference would be that you wouldn't be able to win the 'best crew/club' award. Other than that, your chances of winning are just as good as the guy with 50 'club' members.

BlackEJ8;264281 wrote:
Sweet just make sure there are a lot more entries available than last year, so every one that wants to enter gets to

There was plenty of spaces available last year. If everyone commits the show in a timely fashion, there should be no reason why you wouldn't get in. It is a first come, first served basis. If you wait until the last day to get your registration in, you might be out of luck, but if you commit to the show weeks in advance and get your registration in at that time, you will be promised a spot....pending you aren't bringing a car that is smashed up and painted 10 colors.

Trafik Jamz;264285 wrote:
Well, they did book the entire dome this year, so there should be more space available for entrants.

This year should be insane...last year the judges only had ~3 minutes per car to go through them and score them. Are there going to be any changes to the way it the show is judged? Not in the actual scoring, but has there been any thoughts on groups of judges scoring just honda/toyota/subaru/etc? I think that this is something that could be done quickly. Then have the head judge of each group go around and pick the best of show, best paint and other "specialty" awards.

Again, I'm not trying to stir the pot...just offering my $.02 based on past experience.

Judging will be changed for this year, and will have to be much more efficient with an addition of 40ish vehicles. There will be more judges, and there will be less involved for each judge.

weshole;264286 wrote:
Oh and to keep the suspicions at bay, noone showing judging. Right Chuck?

We have always done what we felt was fair for judging. We never have judged and this year will be no different.

[63vette]

Nothing at the track the day after Perfect 10 show?
Nothing is on the track schedule for Aug 23?

[2wheeler]

63vette;264418 wrote:
Nothing at the track the day after Perfect 10 show?
Nothing is on the track schedule for Aug 23?

Not sure where you're looking. (I hope the answer isn't actually Idrags website....people should know better than that by now)

Orignally posted by Greg Brummer himself on www.tintmasters.net

http://fargostreet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16795

Looks like the 23rd is booked.

[Puppet Master]

So anyone can go to this show right? Just to check it out? I sure as hell am not going to be putting the sunfire in there...seeing as how it is a piece of shit.

[PSiedTSi]

Puppet Master;264440 wrote:
So anyone can go to this show right? Just to check it out? I sure as hell am not going to be putting the sunfire in there...seeing as how it is a piece of shit.

Nope, you must register/show to be able to see it. Of course you can come see it, it wouldn't be a car show if you couldn't!

[63vette]

2wheeler;264439 wrote:
Not sure where you're looking. (I hope the answer isn't actually Idrags website....people should know better than that by now)

Orignally posted by Greg Brummer himself on www.tintmasters.net

http://fargostreet.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16795

Looks like the 23rd is booked.

Its from the flyer that Performance Auto is handing out.
None of the Tintmasters events are on it. Apparently Gregg put tintmasters events on a different flyer.

[powder]

I really hope I dont gynx (sp??) myself this year but Im finally entering my car this year, just need paint on the bumpers and put together interior. If I dont I know my gf will enter her car atleast

[weshole]

FG2;264408 wrote:
We have always done what we felt was fair for judging. We never have judged and this year will be no different.

I personally have no quams about how it was judged Jason. I thought it was fair. I just remember the butthurt people complaining about Chuck judging.

[FG2]

weshole;265194 wrote:
I personally have no quams about how it was judged Jason. I thought it was fair. I just remember the butthurt people complaining about Chuck judging.

I have already received a call from Brent Mills (Insane G35), and he said he wanted to be a 'non-entry' (but bring the car), and judge. I encouraged him to enter the car, as well as judge. This year, people will NOT judge all the cars, and if they are an entry in the show, they will be given a group of cars that do not directly relate to their vehicle. So Brent will not judge Nissan/Infinity, and if Chuck were to do it, he would not judge Subaru. Pretty simple, and safe!

• Jason

[weshole]

Good thinkin.

[HiImBrian]

The whole judging thing seems silly to me. When did it become important to have a better car than other people anyways? What happened to getting a bunch of enthusiasts together and just havin a good time?

[weshole]

HiImBrian;265212 wrote:
The whole judging thing seems silly to me. When did it become important to have a better car than other people anyways? What happened to getting a bunch of enthusiasts together and just havin a good time?

It is a car show with awards given out. You have to be judged to get an award so the need for judges. Some people invest a lot of $$ and time in their cars and the awards they compete for are what some consider a return on their investment. Others, (myself included) just like the show n shine aspect of it and dont really care if anything is won. But to the people that actually invest the time and money into touring the show circuit, this is what the awards/judging for such is for. It's a great time either way.

[Trafik Jamz]

I like the way you think Jason. And I would be honored to judge again if asked, and would understand if I wasn't.

[HiImBrian]

weshole;265213 wrote:
It is a car show with awards given out. You have to be judged to get an award so the need for judges. Some people invest a lot of $$ and time in their cars and the awards they compete for are what some consider a return on their investment. Others, (myself included) just like the show n shine aspect of it and dont really care if anything is won. But to the people that actually invest the time and money into touring the show circuit, this is what the awards/judging for such is for. It's a great time either way.

Yea that makes really good sense. To each their own I guess. I've never won a trophy/award before so I guess I wouldn't know the joy in getting one. Then again I've only been in one show that I entered my stock mx6 in lol. I would completely understand if there were cash prizes or something, and I guess I do understand that getting trophies is fun and that makes the need for judging. Maybe I just dont understand why people get all butt hurt about not winning.

Enough of that, I'll be at p10 and I'm looking forward to it!

[PSiedTSi]

HiImBrian;265230 wrote:
Maybe I just dont understand why people get all butt hurt about not winning.

You're not alone with that view...I view the whole car show thing as an opportunity to show my car off, hang out with friends, drink even, and if I ever happen to get recognition for it, great. If not, oh well, that's not really makes the show worthwhile.

[bubba]

PSiedTSi;265231 wrote:
You're not alone with that view...I view the whole car show thing as an opportunity to show my car off, hang out with friends, drink even, and if I ever happen to get recognition for it, great. If not, oh well, that's not really makes the show worthwhile.

exactly how i feel about shows too...

FG2;265201 wrote:
I have already received a call from Brent Mills (Insane G35), and he said he wanted to be a 'non-entry' (but bring the car), and judge. I encouraged him to enter the car, as well as judge. This year, people will NOT judge all the cars, and if they are an entry in the show, they will be given a group of cars that do not directly relate to their vehicle. So Brent will not judge Nissan/Infinity, and if Chuck were to do it, he would not judge Subaru. Pretty simple, and safe!

• Jason

What about the "best club" judging... do ppl that are affiliated with clubs judge that too? (I'm jw, not like my club will be winning that anytime soon, lol)

[FG2]

bubba;265240 wrote:
exactly how i feel about shows too...

What about the "best club" judging... do ppl that are affiliated with clubs judge that too? (I'm jw, not like my club will be winning that anytime soon, lol)

Best club is a collaboration of all the judges thoughts. We try and find judges that aren't affiliated with a club, but that becomes hard, and if I feel that someone is being unrealistic with a vote for 'their' club, their vote will not count. We have yet to have a problem with that tho.]]

• Jason

[bubba]

FG2;265279 wrote:
Best club is a collaboration of all the judges thoughts. We try and find judges that aren't affiliated with a club, but that becomes hard, and if I feel that someone is being unrealistic with a vote for 'their' club, their vote will not count. We have yet to have a problem with that tho.]]

• Jason

That's good, I haven't noticed any cars so far that shouldnt have gotten the awards they got...

[weshole]

HiImBrian;265230 wrote:
Yea that makes really good sense. To each their own I guess. I've never won a trophy/award before so I guess I wouldn't know the joy in getting one. Then again I've only been in one show that I entered my stock mx6 in lol. I would completely understand if there were cash prizes or something, and I guess I do understand that getting trophies is fun and that makes the need for judging. Maybe I just dont understand why people get all butt hurt about not winning.

Enough of that, I'll be at p10 and I'm looking forward to it!

PSiedTSi;265231 wrote:
You're not alone with that view...I view the whole car show thing as an opportunity to show my car off, hang out with friends, drink even, and if I ever happen to get recognition for it, great. If not, oh well, that's not really makes the show worthwhile.

I totally agree with both posts completely. It does however feel good to get a trophy for your hard work. It is a real sense of accomplishment and it makes you very proud of what you have done.

[KA-T_240]

Over the years I have watched this show grow into what it is today. Everything improves every year. Last year was the first year I had a car in the show, its even more fun having a car in it then not. It gives you a real look at to how much time/money/effort is put into people cars and getting them ready for the show, and the show it self. I will for sure have my car in the show again!

I have never thought there was any issues with Judges. As for Chuck. if his car gets a trophy/award, it is because the car earned it.