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  • zbrownZ Offline
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    zbrown
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    #12

    24valvenotak;300958 wrote:
    the cummins is bad ass but everything about the interior of a dodge just plain sucks

    if i could have anything it would be a 05-06ish ford 3/4ton....... but with a 12v/auto combo

    Ford makes a good truck, things are just iffy in the engine department when you consider what engine you could have

    inspector01;300968 wrote:
    I actually saw a Duramax in Wisconsin that had a "My truck was built with wrenches, not chop sticks" sticker in the back window this summer, it made me LOL.....

    lol... poor ignorant guy

    MisterCMK;300932 wrote:
    Zac, is the 2011 Cummins gonna step up or is Dodge going to stick with the paltry 6.7 they have now?

    doesn't matter if they do or not...

    something must be "alright" about the cummins if the 5.9 is offered in the f650/f750.........strange they never offered a powerstroke

    you think ford will step up and rate this motor at higher than a 150k major service interval like the past couple were?? LOL

    oh.... and i don't like the idea of having to pull my cab to do ..... well anything

    rx7-8.89@157mph
    12v dodge, twins

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    • DaveHD Offline
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      I think the old 7.3 that I have in my towing mule is a decent engine. Ford shoulda kept the old girl and just updated the injection/turbo on it instead of making the 6.0 and 6.4.

      zbrown;300972 wrote:
      if i could have anything it would be a 05-06ish ford 3/4ton....... but with a 12v/auto combo

      Ford makes a good truck, things are just iffy in the engine department when you consider what engine you could have

      lol... poor ignorant guy

      doesn't matter if they do or not...

      something must be "alright" about the cummins if the 5.9 is offered in the f650/f750.........strange they never offered a powerstroke

      you think ford will step up and rate this motor at higher than a 150k major service interval like the past couple were?? LOL

      oh.... and i don't like the idea of having to pull my cab to do ..... well anything

      DaveH
      '94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph

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      • PSiedTSiP Offline
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        Yeah, the 7.3 was atleast ok...seem to hold their value pretty well too. I know I want an Excursion with a 7.3 in it.

        At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

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        Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

        > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
        > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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          Grr
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          best option is to buy a blown powerstroke and toss a DT466 in there, best pickup, and the best small diesel engine ever in one package.

          2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
          2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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            91nbtsi
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            24valvenotak;300958 wrote:
            the cummins is bad ass but everything about the interior of a dodge just plain sucks

            Mitch, the new Dodges are pretty nice (finally). My 2007 has some items in the interior that aren't great, but overall I like it.

            Impressive numbers on the new Ford powerplant, that's for sure. Time will tell if it is a good thing for Ford to have total control of the engine design. I will stick with my simple inline 6 for now:)

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            • DrifterExtremeD Offline
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              Only think i will never understand, is why is the suramax and powerstroke so god damned complicated. A very simple inline 6 kickes there ass, yet they continue to "reinvent the wheel".

              It's just stupid.

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                Its OK Matt, there are a lot of things that you will never understand...

                FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                > thrash;315544 wrote:
                > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                >
                > Ford is back :)

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                • 24valvenotak2 Offline
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                  24valvenotak
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                  #19

                  91nbtsi;301008 wrote:
                  Mitch, the new Dodges are pretty nice (finally). My 2007 has some items in the interior that aren't great, but overall I like it.

                  Impressive numbers on the new Ford powerplant, that's for sure. Time will tell if it is a good thing for Ford to have total control of the engine design. I will stick with my simple inline 6 for now:)

                  i drove an 09 mega cab big horn or whatever crazy name they have for it now and i didnt really like it. i am not saying it fell apart when i touched it, it just wasnt for me.

                  Getcher green hat, we are goin fishin.

                  > 63vette;288530 wrote:
                  > I dont know shit about building cars.

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                  • capitljC Offline
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                    capitlj
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                    #20

                    The 7.3 couldn't meet emission standards and had to go. Ford as well as Chevy didn't do any "reinvention of the wheel" with the 6.0 and 6.6 respectively. Both were developed by outside suppliers, to meet the manufacturers specs. I'm sure there are proprietary patents on some key I 6 components, held by Cummins, CAT, Detroit, etc. that prohibit Ford or Chevy from manufacturing a competitive, both in price and performance, engine with international and Isuzu.

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                    > Mitch Hedberg wrote:
                    > I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.

                    ASE certified parts specialist.
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                      capitlj;301023 wrote:
                      The 7.3 couldn't meet emission standards and had to go. Ford as well as Chevy didn't do any "reinvention of the wheel" with the 6.0 and 6.6 respectively. Both were developed by outside suppliers, to meet the manufacturers specs. I'm sure there are proprietary patents on some key I 6 components, held by Cummins, CAT, Detroit, etc. that prohibit Ford or Chevy from manufacturing a competitive, both in price and performance, engine with international and Isuzu.

                      Well thats actually a pretty good point that i didn't think of. They may not be able to produce or were not able in the begining they could produce a I6.

                      I guess my whole point was that if the big inline diesel's work so well in the industrial trucks/equipment. Why make a v8 over a scaled down inline?

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                        capitlj
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                        #22

                        I'm sure streamlining the assembly process has a little to do with it too. The gas and diesel trucks roll of the same sarmbly line and its probably easier to bolt in a V8 diesel and gas motor on the same assembly line.

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                        > Mitch Hedberg wrote:
                        > I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.

                        ASE certified parts specialist.
                        2004 Impala LS 3.8

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                        • MisterCMKM Offline
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                          MisterCMK
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                          #23

                          Yes, those are obviously the reasons that Ford and GM use a V8 diesel rather than an I6. Nothing else.

                          FASTER THAN DUBBSY

                          > thrash;315544 wrote:
                          > I noticed that the new 5.0 valve covers say "Ford Motorsport" or something on them. Instead, the valvecovers should be a big bald eagle, holding a rifle in one talon, an american flag in the other, eating apple pie, and shitting on the outline of europe.
                          >
                          > Ford is back :)

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                            capitlj
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                            #24

                            I'm hardly that narrow minded Chris. I'm just offering up feasible reasons, apart from the obvious V8>all.

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                            > Mitch Hedberg wrote:
                            > I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.

                            ASE certified parts specialist.
                            2004 Impala LS 3.8

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                              btleier
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                              I'm curious to see how things hold up. The new motor is built in house by Ford. Couldn't be any worse then the last one 😛

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                                Ford should have got a bunch of old 2JZ's from the junkyard, and replaced the spark plugs with glow plugs, and converted the fuel injection system into a diesel system.

                                2JZ > all

                                DaveH
                                '94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph

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                                  Trafik Jamz
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                                  DaveH;301371 wrote:
                                  Ford should have got a bunch of old 2JZ's from the junkyard, and replaced the spark plugs with glow plugs, and converted the fuel injection system into a diesel system.

                                  2JZ > all

                                  Hence the reason you pull your tow vehicle with your race car....wait:icon_scratch:

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                                    zbrown
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                                    DaveH;301371 wrote:
                                    Ford should have got a bunch of old 2JZ's from the junkyard, and replaced the spark plugs with glow plugs, and converted the fuel injection system into a diesel system.

                                    2JZ > all

                                    lol

                                    rx7-8.89@157mph
                                    12v dodge, twins

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