What if 20 million Illegal Aliens vacated to America?
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i don't want to nor do i think we should even talk about kicking illegals out. Whats so hard to secure the borders and start the mass checking for papers. fucking done
Your illegal your either sent back or become a citizen.
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Believe it or not, citizenship is harder to attain than you might expect. I know a young man who lived here illegally for somewhere in the 18-22 year range, and finally chose to pursue legal citizenship when he wanted to marry someone who lives here as a citizen. That was about 5 years ago, and he's been having some serious problems.
He's married to a citizen, but that doesn't guarantee acceptance. He has children with that same young lady, but that doesn't guarantee acceptance. He has been gainfully employed and a pro/am boxer, but that doesn't guarantee acceptance. Citizenship is a more tangled web than you are told.
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It's hard to get citizenship in the USA no matter who you are.
The main problem, as identified above, is the high cost of providing the welfare-state to all comers. It's not sustainable. We can tear it apart carefully in small peices, or we can wait for the US to default, the dollar to collapse, and society to collapse with it.
But either way, it's coming apart.
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[QUOTE=Jim;311780]lol oh god... here we go again.
It's not that I LIKE or CONDONE Illegal immigrants here, as I've said in previous threads, its fucking unfair.
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This, and the part where it says our schools having to teach other languages and shit, GOD FORBID our kids had a little culture in their life and learned about some of it. Cause you know, if its not the american way, its not the right way.... Right deep south??
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out there;311846 wrote:
Believe it or not, citizenship is harder to attain than you might expect. I know a young man who lived here illegally for somewhere in the 18-22 year range, and finally chose to pursue legal citizenship when he wanted to marry someone who lives here as a citizen. That was about 5 years ago, and he's been having some serious problems.He's married to a citizen, but that doesn't guarantee acceptance. He has children with that same young lady, but that doesn't guarantee acceptance. He has been gainfully employed and a pro/am boxer, but that doesn't guarantee acceptance. Citizenship is a more tangled web than you are told.
So he comes here illegally, gets a girl knocked up gets married, and expects to gain citizenship just because of that. People do get citizenship if they want it. They have to work for it. Not get everything handed to them. Im sure its no cakewalk to get citizenship in any other country, how about you get out of this one and find out?
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Bp-08;311903 wrote:
So he comes here illegally, gets a girl knocked up gets married, and expects to gain citizenship just because of that. People do get citizenship if they want it. They have to work for it. Not get everything handed to them. Im sure its no cakewalk to get citizenship in any other country, how about you get out of this one and find out?Where did he say he expects it? Also, where does it say he knocked her up first...maybe he did, maybe he didn't...either way he is married to the girl.
He's trying to make things right and do the right thing. He's trying to head down the right path. The facts are that it is infinitely easier to continue to be an illegal alien than it is to become a citizen.
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Trafik Jamz;311906 wrote:
Where did he say he expects it? Also, where does it say he knocked her up first...maybe he did, maybe he didn't...either way he is married to the girl.He's trying to make things right and do the right thing. He's trying to head down the right path. The facts are that it is infinitely easier to continue to be an illegal alien than it is to become a citizen.
It implies he expects it. I never "specifically" said that he got her knocked up first if you want to be that way.
And its not impossible to become a citizen, so it shouldn't matter if its harder or not.
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Bp-08;311903 wrote:
So he comes here illegally, gets a girl knocked up gets married
Bp-08 wrote:
I never "specifically" said that he got her knocked up first if you want to be that way.
That's specific enough for me.Bp-08 wrote:
...and expects to gain citizenship just because of that. People do get citizenship if they want it. They have to work for it. Not get everything handed to them.
He used the proper forms, talked to all the right people, and still got the run around. Do you have a better answer? No, because you are just interested in looking like the tough American.I am not a part of the frustrations happening to this young man, but I do know that he speaks good English (bonus!), has been working consistently since 14 (bonus!), and is married to a legal citizen (bonus!). He has been deported since trying to attain legal citizenship, and is continuing to have difficulties getting citizenship here.
Whether the woman was knocked-up or not is immaterial, what matters is that he chose to try doing things the "right" way, and he's being punished.
its not impossible to become a citizen, so it shouldn't matter if its harder or not.
Ever done any research on the difficulties of becoming a Swiss citizen? German? Finnish? It's very hard. There is such a thing as a point of diminishing returns, and that point is reached for many people.I suggest that you stop posting in this thread, you contradicted yourself, and you don't make sense.
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Bp-08;311903 wrote:
Im sure its no cakewalk to get citizenship in any other country, how about you get out of this one and find out?out there;311910 wrote:
Ever done any research on the difficulties of becoming a Swiss citizen? German? Finnish? It's very hard. There is such a thing as a point of diminishing returns, and that point is reached for many people.............
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By "very hard", I was referring to the differences between becoming a citizen of any of the aforementioned countries vs the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nationality_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_nationality_law
Finnish citizenship is nearly impossible, without the right connections.
http://www.migri.fi/netcomm/content.asp?path=8,2477,2549,2555By comparison, American citizenship is supposed to be a cakewalk.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=d84d6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d84d6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD -
out there;311919 wrote:
By "very hard", I was referring to the differences between becoming a citizen of any of the aforementioned countries vs the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_nationality_law
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_nationality_law
Finnish citizenship is nearly impossible, without the right connections.
http://www.migri.fi/netcomm/content.asp?path=8,2477,2549,2555By comparison, American citizenship is supposed to be a cakewalk.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=d84d6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d84d6811264a3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRDOk then quit bitching that your mexican friend is having a hard time getting in.
You know he can live in mexico, its not like they are kicking him out.....
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Bp-08;311968 wrote:
You know he can live in mexico, its not like they are kicking him out.....The same can be said for all of our relatives that immigrated here. Why did they come? For opportunities not available to them in their home country. Or are you saying it's ok for Europeans to immigrate to the US but not for anyone else?
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01tib;311976 wrote:
this thread went into fail with bp08s posts... sorry man but you do sound like a jackass right now.Shut the fuck up logan. Go join your mexican friends back in arizona. You know im a jackass. Your cool with me man but dont be kissing people ass.
Btw im American Indian so ......
Oh and im saying its ok for anyone to immigrate her legally.
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Trafik Jamz;311972 wrote:
The same can be said for all of our relatives that immigrated here. Why did they come? For opportunities not available to them in their home country. Or are you saying it's ok for Europeans to immigrate to the US but not for anyone else?UMM my great grandparents came her legally...... From Norway.
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