Apt building fire in S. Fargo

[Bookem]

out there;316416 wrote:
I'm in a prime position to say that the people without insurance on their stuff deserve to lose it. Grr is right, and I expect that most of those on here that aren't voicing thoughts are all thinking the same thing.
There is a difference between thinking and voicing an opinion, but I guess I'm used to tip-toeing around peoples feelings. In my opinion, very rarely do people change their minds, so why try?

For the cable one deal, I think they have screwed over enough people already so f-em, they can write it off on taxes (unless less they made too much money???). This will really put a lasting impression on the F-M area.

[thrash]

Here's the thing. You signed an agreement with Cable One that you'd take care of their property. then you let it catch on fire.

Is this Cable One's fault?

It doesn't matter that these people didn't start the fire -- they agreed to return CableOne's property and now they're not going to.

CableOne should refuse to offer service to these folks who "wont pay, on principle". They can claim that they don't do business with people who sign agreements they don't intend to honor.

Not that I like Cable One, but I also don't like people who don't take responsibility, and think the world owes them something, and that the cheif dynamic of their life is claiming "it's not my fault".

Guess what, assholes: it's not cable one's fault either. You have no right to expect them to take it in the shorts.

[thrash]

STiSchucky;316417 wrote:
you dont think its the least bit tacky of cable one to be charging separate customers for smoke damage if if they werent liable for starting the fire?

I agree it's tacky and heartless, but this isn't a popularity contest, it's real life. Should cable one spread that loss over all its customers? If so, are you signing up to have your bill go up?

It's not the fire victims fault their shit caught on fire. But it's certainly not cable ones fault (so they shouldn't be on the hook), and it's not your fault either (so you shouldn't be charged higher cable prices either).

The only moral solution is to assign the costs solely to the person who did not fulfill their contract: the fire victims. Everyone else did what they were supposed to do: it's unfair to penalize them.

this will blow up in cableones face i bet.

It will, because Americans are more socialist than they care to admit. Spread the wealth, spread the poison. That's how most Americans think about things. But cableone is in the right to demand people uphold their end of a signed contract. Once contracts don't matter, the world falls apart.

[DrifterExtreme]

I expected cable one to make them buy new ones, but not for $500 hell even i know those pos arn't worth that. And the fact they bring it up asap means there a bunch of losers. I'm waiting along with many for midco. You just wait and see what cable one profits are once that shit is available.

[Rexwagon]

cableone could have waited a few months before being douches about it.

[HandoEX]

I am sure Cable One didn't start calling subscribers asking for money. People went to Cable One to cancel service and Cable One billed them. I am sure they bill higher amounts on the contract so people are less likely to trash the dvr's. I am betting that Cable One will lower the final cost in this case, but they should have had their staff ready to handle this mess sooner. Now they have soured their rep in the eyes of the public.

[out there]

Bookem;316420 wrote:
There is a difference between thinking and voicing an opinion, but I guess I'm used to tip-toeing around peoples feelings.I agree, but that didn't stop people from voicing their opinions about how awful this is, or about Cable One, did it?

I think that what you mean is: It's only acceptable to voice an opinion when it doesn't bother anyone. You keep thinking that, I will deal with the gorilla in the room.

[RidinRails]

Grr;316395 wrote:
sorry i dont remember, but arent you like a felon for beating your GF or something? Or maybe you stole some shit? Im not gonna bother looking it up but I do recall that YOU are in fact the loser in this discussion

well its obviously clear that you DONT remember, but nice try!

Atleast im not taking hits at people who lost all of their belongings in a apartment fire.

But yes, you win.. im a loser in this discussion ....bahahahaha

[SPANISH-RICE]

RidinRails;316432 wrote:
well its obviously clear that you DONT remember, but nice try!

Atleast im not taking hits at people who lost all of their belongings in a apartment fire.

But yes, you win.. im a loser in this discussion ....bahahahaha

sounds more like hes taking hits at irresponsible people who expect people to bend over when things dont go their way ( not specifically the fire victims, the lazy people of fargo street mostly). which i think is warranted.

[dont got a ride]

SPANISH-RICE;316434 wrote:
sounds more like hes taking hits at irresponsible people who expect people to bend over when things dont go their way ( not specifically the fire victims, the lazy people of fargo street mostly). which i think is warranted.

Are you in fact calling yourself lazy? Does that mean he is taking shots at you too? Since your a Fargostreet member and such.

[SPANISH-RICE]

dont got a ride;316435 wrote:
Are you in fact calling yourself lazy? Does that mean he is taking shots at you too? Since your a Fargostreet member and such.

wtf are you talking about? please point out the part where i said ALL of fargostreet is lazy?its pretty clear i was referring more to a specific sect of members, specifically ones that would rather spend money on baby blue spray paint than renters insurance and aren't responsible enough to have car loans in their own names. i.e. you

but any way this is interesting to hear what fargostreet has to think about what being responsible is. continue

[RidinRails]

SPANISH-RICE;316437 wrote:
wtf are you talking about? please point out the part where i said ALL of fargostreet is lazy?its pretty clear i was referring more to a specific sect of members, specifically ones that would rather spend money on baby blue spray paint than renters insurance and aren't responsible enough to have car loans in their own names. i.e. you

but any way this is interesting to hear what fargostreet has to think about what being responsible is. continue

well thank god all my vehicles and house are in my name and all fully insured!

[SPANISH-RICE]

RidinRails;316438 wrote:
well thank god all my vehicles and house are in my name and all fully insured!

congrats

[PSiedTSi]

thrash;316421 wrote:
Here's the thing. You signed an agreement with Cable One that you'd take care of their property. then you let it catch on fire.

Is this Cable One's fault?

It doesn't matter that these people didn't start the fire -- they agreed to return CableOne's property and now they're not going to.

CableOne should refuse to offer service to these folks who "wont pay, on principle". They can claim that they don't do business with people who sign agreements they don't intend to honor.

Not that I like Cable One, but I also don't like people who don't take responsibility, and think the world owes them something, and that the cheif dynamic of their life is claiming "it's not my fault".

Guess what, assholes: it's not cable one's fault either. You have no right to expect them to take it in the shorts.

Seriously, who gives a shit. Their fucking DVR's are $99 on eBay. Who charges someone $1k for something that is available so cheaply. Oh yeah, thats right, cableone is one of the biggest piece of shit cable companies in the country. Theres a reason they aren't in any big metro areas.

[PSiedTSi]

thrash;316422 wrote:
I agree it's tacky and heartless, but this isn't a popularity contest, it's real life. Should cable one spread that loss over all its customers? If so, are you signing up to have your bill go up?

It's not the fire victims fault their shit caught on fire. But it's certainly not cable ones fault (so they shouldn't be on the hook), and it's not your fault either (so you shouldn't be charged higher cable prices either).

The only moral solution is to assign the costs solely to the person who did not fulfill their contract: the fire victims. Everyone else did what they were supposed to do: it's unfair to penalize them.

It will, because Americans are more socialist than they care to admit. Spread the wealth, spread the poison. That's how most Americans think about things. But cableone is in the right to demand people uphold their end of a signed contract. Once contracts don't matter, the world falls apart.

Shut up thrash. Seriously. This has nothing to do with socialism. Go cry to your mom.

[ichibankilla]

So, Cable One is right by making tenants pay for DVR's that got destroyed in a fire they had no control over, which basically is in the same sense as the cell phone companies that tried to make family members pay bills of loved ones that were killed in the 9-11 attack.
They did sign that contract you know, ALL HAIL THE CONTRACT. Apparently extenuating circumstances are not in some peoples, especially corporations and there nut swingers, vocabulary.

I don't know about any of you guys but when my house or apartment is on fire the first thing I grab is my CableOne DVR, things like family and irreplaceable personal items like pictures are second on my list of things to grab. I mean, I can always find another person to get into a relationship with and eventually have more kids that I can take photos of, right? Aint no way I'm paying $500 to replace a DVR box, that's why it's the first thing I grab in an emergency, the wife and kids have feet and legs, if they can't get out on there own then they deserve to burn. I signed that contract and that's all that really matters, if I didn't abide by what that contract said that would make me some kind of lying piece of shit asshole, wouldn't it?

[out there]

ichibankilla;316446 wrote:
ALL HAIL THE CONTRACTAre you giving cart blanc to break contracts? Should law enforcement and the military break their contracts with the government and start using all of their firepower to start taking whatever they want?

Apparently extenuating circumstances are not in some peoples, especially corporations and there nut swingers, vocabulary.Apparently, the word "responsibility" isn't in your vocabulary.

[thrash]

PSiedTSi;316445 wrote:
Shut up thrash. Seriously. This has nothing to do with socialism. Go cry to your mom.

I'm used to hearing that people don't like what I have to say. And as usual, they don't refute it, they just don't like it.

This has everything to do with socialism: which is the idea that whatever most people think is best for most people goes. Cableone is just some shitty company everyone hates. What right do they have to have their contracts enforced and their property rights protected? None, according to you. Apparently, people that didn't bother to get renters insurance had something horrible happen to them, and now they are absolved of all responsibility?

That's not the rule of law. That's the rule of some men over other men.

Why don't you donate $99 DVRs to all of these fire victims? That way you can put your compassion where your internet tough guy mouth is.

[thrash]

ichibankilla;316446 wrote:
I don't know about any of you guys but when my house or apartment is on fire the first thing I grab is my CableOne DVR

Well, no. I leave that and all of the other easy to replace things in the house. And then I let my insurance company pay to replace them.

if I didn't abide by what that contract said that would make me some kind of lying piece of shit asshole, wouldn't it?

Bingo.

Cableone should refuse to re-sell cable to all of these people who are categorically refusing to live up to the terms they signed up for, beause these folks have already demonstrated that their signature on a contract doesn't mean a fucking thing.

[ichibankilla]

The problem is context. I can see having to replace it if, in fact, it was destroyed by your own doing(dropping it, trying to hack it, your kid dumping juice all over it, etc.) but in this case the tenants had no control over what happened, IE the apartment catching fire.
This is what would be considered an extenuating circumstance. These people didn't purposely destroy there DVR's, to reiterate, it was a damn fire, something unforeseen, therefore the whole responsibility issue is null and void.
Example, it would be like you buying a car then the next year you decide to sell it but it isn't paid off yet, you find a buyer and do all the appropriate paperwork, BUT, you still have to make payments on it because you signed the original contract. Sounds pretty shitty doesn't it? What I'm trying to say is, is businesses and people sign and change contracts all the time to meet certain needs or criteria, like refinancing a loan.
Another issue, so what if they didn't have renters insurance, yes it sucks, but that doesn't make them less of a person as you, as some of you seem to be acting like they are. That pedestal you put yourself on has a weak foundation that no insurance in the world will help you rebuild, just saying. Karma's a bitch.