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Engines out, now i got a problem!

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  • harwood39H Offline
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    harwood39
    wrote on last edited by
    #7

    Too bad it will be alot colder out tho. god thats going to suck. we need a shop we can do shit in.

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      aliengotpsi
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      #8

      so what are you gonna do with the engine? dont tell me your gonna build it back to stock? if so why? it would be cheaper and easyer to find a replacement one

      Kevin Smith
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      • torbsT Offline
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        #9

        i think harwood should do a mild n/a build...cheap to do

        Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
        Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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        • harwood39H Offline
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          harwood39
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          #10

          torbs, you know thats what i am doing, and i am going to take your advice on the P29 pistons.

          Harwood Development - Emergency Vehicle Upfitter

          2730 5th Ave S. Unit C
          Fargo, ND 58103
          701-429-3686

          Rontan, D&R Electronics, Feniex, Federal Signal, SVP/Star, Bradford, Tufloc, Lund, Code3, Sound-Off, Nova, Copeland, Power-Arc, Recon

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          • harwood39H Offline
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            harwood39
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            #11

            i owuld never build it back to stock. That would be pointless. But i need to get this done ASAP cause the tranny took a dump in the taurus.

            Harwood Development - Emergency Vehicle Upfitter

            2730 5th Ave S. Unit C
            Fargo, ND 58103
            701-429-3686

            Rontan, D&R Electronics, Feniex, Federal Signal, SVP/Star, Bradford, Tufloc, Lund, Code3, Sound-Off, Nova, Copeland, Power-Arc, Recon

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              torbs
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              #12

              p29's, cam, springs/retainers, and MOST of all, tuning...and boom, like 160whp n/a (has been on a dyno making that with those things)...also, as far as tuning goes...see if you can convert your car to run e85...105 octane = advanced timing correct??? yes, mpg will go down, but i dont think it outweighs the price of e85 and the power that can potentially be gained.

              Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
              Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                PSI2HI
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                #13

                torbs wrote:
                p29's, cam, springs/retainers, and MOST of all, tuning...and boom, like 160whp n/a (has been on a dyno making that with those things)...also, as far as tuning goes...see if you can convert your car to run e85...105 octane = advanced timing correct??? yes, mpg will go down, but i dont think it outweighs the price of e85 and the power that can potentially be gained.

                Wow, oh wow.... Do some more research buddy! First word of advice quit reading forums all the time trying to get smart.

                "Just because you know it all doesn't mean you can do it all"

                "If you can't afford to do it right the first time can you afford to do it a second time?"

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                  i know that there's been the debate bout this like 7891230 times...what am i missing exactly?...ive researched this a bunch and there's a bunch of mixed reactions. i think what i need to see is a dyno of the same car running say 92 oct. then running e85 and see the difference...that's one thing that i cant seem to find on any forums that i look at as far as hard evidence goes...basically, im just going by what other ppl say on other forums...i guess i should look and try to find the negative side...?

                  Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                  Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                  • harwood39H Offline
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                    harwood39
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #15

                    I am NOT going to be running e85. Im not going to go through all that extra work and also i am limited on my funds here. Thats why im doind cam, springs, retainers, p29's, ITB's, Billet rods, race bearings, Port and Polish head, 3-way Vavle job, cometic head gasket, arp head studs, and an exedy stage 2 clutch. A couple minor other things fuel wise but thats all, and an MSD ignition.

                    Also dont forget lots of tuning time next summer.

                    Harwood Development - Emergency Vehicle Upfitter

                    2730 5th Ave S. Unit C
                    Fargo, ND 58103
                    701-429-3686

                    Rontan, D&R Electronics, Feniex, Federal Signal, SVP/Star, Bradford, Tufloc, Lund, Code3, Sound-Off, Nova, Copeland, Power-Arc, Recon

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                      integra_gsr98
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                      What the hell are race bearings???

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                      • darkelvisD Offline
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                        darkelvis
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                        #17

                        harwood39 wrote:
                        I am NOT going to be running e85. Im not going to go through all that extra work and also i am limited on my funds here. Thats why im doind cam, springs, retainers, p29's, ITB's, Billet rods, race bearings, Port and Polish head, 3-way Vavle job, cometic head gasket, arp head studs, and an exedy stage 2 clutch. A couple minor other things fuel wise but thats all, and an MSD ignition.

                        Also dont forget lots of tuning time next summer.

                        Good luck getting your piston/rod combo to work. Cometic head gasket=overpriced junk. And yea, what are race bearings?

                        Hey everyone....Anonymously tell joel what you really think of him
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                          KA-T_240
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                          #18

                          darkelvis wrote:
                          Good luck getting your piston/rod combo to work. Cometic head gasket=overpriced junk. And yea, what are race bearings?

                          why are cometic head gaskets junk?

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                            darkelvis
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                            #19

                            A cometic head gasket for a honda is essentially the same as the OEM one, except for the price. Plus unless he sleeves or fills the block, or runs a block guard (which I personally wouldn't do) honda sleeves have a tendency of shifting which causes head gaskets to blow.

                            Just not worth it in my opinion. I'd just run OEM gaskets. 🙂

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                              #20

                              he's limited on funds, so he's only gonna get "cam, springs, retainers, p29's, ITB's, Billet rods, race bearings, Port and Polish head, 3-way Vavle job, cometic head gasket, arp head studs, and an exedy stage 2 clutch".............and for some reason, even if e85 was thought about, which it isnt...all you'd need is to make your fuel system corrosive free and get some bigger injectors...as in, stainless steal fuel lines (replace any rubber or corrosive prone materials in the fuel system), injectors about 2x the normal size give or take, and a good tuning device...that doesnt sound like much money to me compared to the rest of the build...and hell harwood, even if you only get 15-20mpg with it, you'll be paying 60 cents less/ gallon and getting the benefits of 100+ octane...so to me it seems like a no brainer...thats just me tho...anybody else have any thoughts on this or know somebody that has tried it out?

                              Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                              Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                              • darkelvisD Offline
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                                darkelvis
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                                #21

                                The horseshit gas mileage caused by e85 actually makes it more expensive in the long run.

                                Hey everyone....Anonymously tell joel what you really think of him
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                                  SmitEvo
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                                  But he would be like 10 hp faster............:p

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                                  • harwood39H Offline
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                                    harwood39
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                                    #23

                                    torbs wrote:
                                    he's limited on funds, so he's only gonna get "cam, springs, retainers, p29's, ITB's, Billet rods, race bearings, Port and Polish head, 3-way Vavle job, cometic head gasket, arp head studs, and an exedy stage 2 clutch".............and for some reason, even if e85 was thought about, which it isnt...all you'd need is to make your fuel system corrosive free and get some bigger injectors...as in, stainless steal fuel lines (replace any rubber or corrosive prone materials in the fuel system), injectors about 2x the normal size give or take, and a good tuning device...that doesnt sound like much money to me compared to the rest of the build...and hell harwood, even if you only get 15-20mpg with it, you'll be paying 60 cents less/ gallon and getting the benefits of 100+ octane...so to me it seems like a no brainer...thats just me tho...anybody else have any thoughts on this or know somebody that has tried it out?

                                    Torbs, do you know how much stainless lines are? i have a foot of it and it was like $60 bux, go to stealthmodeperformance.com and look at the prices of lines. Plus injectors are expensive and with having to run more fuel it would be more expensive.

                                    Harwood Development - Emergency Vehicle Upfitter

                                    2730 5th Ave S. Unit C
                                    Fargo, ND 58103
                                    701-429-3686

                                    Rontan, D&R Electronics, Feniex, Federal Signal, SVP/Star, Bradford, Tufloc, Lund, Code3, Sound-Off, Nova, Copeland, Power-Arc, Recon

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                                      torbs
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                                      #24

                                      but 10hp harwood!!!! thats like doubling the power in a honda!!!

                                      Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                                      Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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                                        integra_gsr98
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                                        HOLY FUCK AGAIN!

                                        Hey fuckin guys listen to people for once>

                                        1. E85 IS NOT RACE GAS. ITS FUCKING CORN GAS. Leave it at the pump where it belongs.
                                        2. SS LINE is RUBBER on the inside unless you buy teflon coated inner.
                                        3. SS LINE is NOT 60 dollars a foot.
                                        4. all motor single cam is like masturbation, in the end you're only fucking yourself (very slowly I might add)
                                        5. Race gas on an all motor SOHC making probably what will be 15 hp is also a waste of money.
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                                          why dont you like e85 gsr? i know its not race gas, but it has more potential for power than normal pump when used correctly...do you know anybody that has tried to use/tune with it?...not for this to be a slam war, just wondering because it seems that i get shot down every time i mention this...i'll believe you that it's "bad" if you can show me proof that if tuned correctly theres more than 2x the amount of e85 used compared to gas, that it doesnt improve how much power that a car can produce, and it's overall cost effectiveness...i dont want this to be somthing where its just ppl saying their opinions, im talking about finding facts prooving that its harmful or not usefull in some way shape or form. call me a hard ass about this stuff, but i still havnt seen why its so bad...

                                          Current vehicles: 90 Civic Hatch, 95 Civic Sedan, 93 Del Sol, 95 Civic Coupe, 99 Integra GS
                                          Past vehicles: 78 Malibu 2dr., 88 Riviera, 90 Laser RS-T, 91 Audi 90 quattro, 93 Del Sol, 90 TSI AWD, 92 Integra GSR, 94 Del Sol, 93 Prelude Si, 97 Civic Coupe, 88 Toyota MR2 Supercharged, 94 Lexus GS300, 89 CRX, 06 Vento Zip, 90 Civic hatch, 98 Honda Civic, 99 Honda Civic, 92 Yamaha XJ600S, 87 4WD Subaru GL, 94 Audi 90CS Quattro, 00 Civic EX Coupe, 04 Dodge SRT-4, 89 Corolla GTS (Silvertop), 95 Del Sol

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