Presidential Election
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RX8ownage wrote:
woops
Name 3 things you think Kerry has changed views on? i'll even spot you one, the appropriations bill that he voted for before he voted against...name 2 more!**Here's the flip-flops I can think of about Bush:
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Bush was against a 9-11 Commission, then he was for it.He was against a department of homeland security, then he was for it.
**Bush is against campaign finance reform; then he's for it.
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Bush is against an Iraq WMD investigation; then he's for it.**Bush is against nation building; then he's for it.
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**Bush is against deficits; then he's for them.
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**Bush is for free trade; then he's for tariffs on steel; then he's against them again.
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**Bush is against the U.S. taking a role in the Israeli Palestinian conflict; then he pushes for a "road map" and a Palestinian State.
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**Bush is for states right to decide on gay marriage, then he is for changing the constitution.
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**Bush first says he'll provide money for first responders (fire, police, emergency), then he doesn't.
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**Bush first says that 'help is on the way' to the military ... then he cuts benefits
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**Bush-"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. Bush-"I don't know where he is. I have no idea and I really don't care.
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**Bush claims to be in favor of the environment and then secretly starts drilling on Padre Island.
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**Bush talks about helping education and increases mandates while cutting funding.
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**Bush first says the U.S. won't negotiate with North Korea. Now he will
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**Bush goes to Bob Jones University. Then say's he shouldn't have.
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**Bush said he would demand a U.N. Security Council vote on whether to sanction military action against Iraq. Later Bush announced he would not call for a vote
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**Bush said the "mission accomplished" banner was put up by the sailors. Bush later admits it was his advance team.
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Bush was for fingerprinting and photographing Mexicans who enter the US. Bush after meeting with Pres. Fox, he's against it. -
i cant think of any, besides him voting for the war back in march and is now against it. voted for the intial cost of the Iraq war and is now against it.
wants to bring troops home by end of december when bush already thought up that plan. but you can't once you establish a stabled Iraq with a democracy gov't, a president ect ect.
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So chuck isnt a nice guy because he doesnt support Bush... thats really a dumb ass bush suportert statement right there.
And I know you didnt directly say he wasnt a nice guy... but you basically did by making the comment "Sounds like Chuck is brainwashed. Thought you were kinda a nice guy."
Chuck is a very informed voter and he knows plenty to back himself up... a majority of voters dont know one candidate from the other and if they were to try and argue why they were voting for who they were... well they would fall on their face. Hell my mom works at Migrant Health in moorhead and a majority of the Hispanic people that come in there say they are going to vote for bush because he speaks some spanish.
Shit bush probably doesnt even pronounce his spanish correct.
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tjamz wrote:
Bush was against a 9-11 Commission, then he was for it.He was against a department of homeland security, then he was for it.
**Bush is against campaign finance reform; then he's for it.
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Bush is against an Iraq WMD investigation; then he's for it.
**Bush is against nation building; then he's for it.
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**Bush is against deficits; then he's for them.
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**Bush is for free trade; then he's for tariffs on steel; then he's against them again.
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etc, etc, etc....Chuck, do you actually type all this stuff? Or just cut-n-paste it from somewhere? Same goes for the 47 reasons post you made... just curious if you have all this stuff in your head, or if you go look it up.
DaveH
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Practice Abstinance, No Bush or Dick in 05! thats a real dumb ass kerry supportant statement right there.
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fallguy wrote:
Sounds like Chuck is brainwashed. Thought you were kinda a nice guy. Too bad ya had to share your warped views on politics. I still think your car is cool though.
that's why I hate political discussion...
everyone ends up pissed at the other person...oh well...
Chuck's still a nice guy...but I will say I"m on the opposite side of the fence for the most part...
But I'll leave it at that...
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But kirk im a hippie dude... I got my long flowin locks blowin in the wind rollin in my V-dub bus.
Besides that shits funny... what fallguy said wasnt.... it was a personal attack on chuck. Im not personally attacking anyone here with that in my sig. And hell if bush ever seen that he probably wouldnt get it and think I was seriously supporting Abstinance.
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rob are u serious. fall guy was kidding.
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Actually, The Communist Party of The United States of America (CPUSA), is publicly supporting John Kerry for Prez....
tjamz wrote:
This is the one quote out of this whole political thing that I take personally. Sorry, but FUCK YOU on that one. The Republican sponsored "patriot act" has taken away more civil liberties than any other bill ever presented before congress. Period. Just because I don't agree I'm a communist? WTF happened to free speech in this country? Why can't someone have a different opinion politically than you w/o being labeled a "commie" or "traitor". The fear-mongering that this administration has pulled nearly parallels that of the 3rd Reich. We are already heading towards national ID cards. Next thing you know we will have to go through registration lines and swear our allegiance to the Republican Party. Then what? Prison sentences for those that don't agree with you? We're almost there. When in the hell did it become the Secret Services job to remove people from political events held by the president while wearing clothing that supports the other candidate? What is Bush afraid of? Why can't people come to his rallies and question him on policies w/o the fear of jail/removal from the crowd? If he is such a Uniter, then why the FUCK doesn't he have the balls to field tough questions from the crowd? Why does he have them removed? What is he scared of? looking like a fucking idiot? He can't do much worse than he is now.DaveH
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notice the pattern dave, all of these honda owners love kerry. must be something they saw at the gay pride rally back when kerry was nominated in march.
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Now matt, just because I choose a different political party doesn't mean that I'm a bad guy. I never once said Kerry was perfect, I just think he is a better choice than bush.
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DaveH wrote:
Chuck, do you actually type all this stuff? Or just cut-n-paste it from somewhere? Same goes for the 47 reasons post you made... just curious if you have all this stuff in your head, or if you go look it up.
Some of it I do look up, but I know where I need to go to find it. I research BOTH sides on a daily basis. A lot was cut and paste, I will be the first to admit it. I can site my sources for anyone who wishes to challenge them though.
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RX8ownage wrote:
notice the pattern dave, all of these honda owners love kerry. must be something they saw at the gay pride rally back when kerry was nominated in march.
Honda owners? I have a Subie, Jim a DSM, and Rob a Focus....I think we are the most vocal in our support. -
No need for the sources. I could rebuke most all the points you stated by sourcing different right-leaning sites. But as I said in a different post, I'm not into a cut-n-paste sorta dialog. Both sides can manipulate data to make themselves look good. I'd rather hear your idea's on topics, not the party line.
tjamz wrote:
Some of it I do look up, but I know where I need to go to find it. I research BOTH sides on a daily basis. A lot was cut and paste, I will be the first to admit it. I can site my sources for anyone who wishes to challenge them though.DaveH
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Flowcus wrote:
But kirk im a hippie dude... I got my long flowin locks blowin in the wind rollin in my V-dub bus.Besides that shits funny... what fallguy said wasnt.... it was a personal attack on chuck. Im not personally attacking anyone here with that in my sig. And hell if bush ever seen that he probably wouldnt get it and think I was seriously supporting Abstinance.
I thought it was pretty funny. Half of the commments on this whole board is a bunch of crap talk that is not seriously intended to hurt the other person. Chuck knows me and knows that I think he is a cool guy. I think your the one getting your flowcus panties in a bunch. Vote for Kerry...I really don't care, but we do have troops in harms way, and by bashing the prez like ya do you really are bashing the troops as well as disrespecting the office.
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