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    KA-T_240
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    #117

    DrifterExtreme;196213 wrote:
    haha, can i start being a jackass?

    your running a log right? shooting for like 450hp+, right?

    now i have heard you talk about spooling fast, do you just like to spin everywhere? i mean seriously? what does spooling at 3000 vs. let's say 4000 do for you when the turbo dies up top? 3076's don't flow alot. hell there pretty much a 57 trim.

    so now don't take this the wrong way but it doesn't seam like a very good turbo for a 2.4l truck motor.

    at least he wants the .82R, which will affect spool. to the slower side. top mount FTMFW

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      DrifterExtreme
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      #118

      still a 57trim on a 2.4l, no matter how you look at it

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        revolutionz_s13
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        #119

        it should net me roughly 400-450whp...and yes, i know that logs are not as efficient as equal length tube, but you can control wheelspin with throttle control, you dont have to bury your foot every time you press the gas pedal...there are plenty of people that use this turbo on this motor, also a very popular turbo for the rb25det, which is a whopping .1 liter larger than the KA. and like faber said, it will be a .82 a/r. and this turbo is more efficient than a 57 trim, so there is more headroom, to a certain extent. I am not claiming to be a turbo genius, but I have done my homework/alot of research.

        > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
        > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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          inspector01
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          #120

          revolutionz_s13;196191 wrote:
          LOL...I am pretty sure I know what I am doing....dont need to ask Faber for advice...I am the one that originally tuned his car when he first got it running with the safc 😉

          revolutionz_s13;196230 wrote:
          I am not claiming to be a turbo genius, but I have done my homework/alot of research.

          Could have fooled me, i thought that anyone who knew how to operate an AFC was a turbo master........;)

          PVC Squad Member #1

          > bubba to Cobra Rob;279451 wrote:
          > ^ and I thought I posted some dumb shit...

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            revolutionz_s13
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            #121

            lol...i see now that came out kinda wrong (sometimes i forget you cant have a "tone of voice" on the internet)...but you know, maybe i will run a safc in mine, so i can continue to improve on my "turbo master" status :icon_cheers:

            > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
            > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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              bubba
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              #122

              Back on topic, what class would I be in..

              CRX, B20/vtec, intake, exhaust...the usual stuff, bushings, coilovers and stuff like that...street tires...

              Current Cars:
              08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
              93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
              90 Honda CRX - Project car
              90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

              Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                zbrown
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                #123

                revolutionz_s13;196230 wrote:
                but you can control wheelspin with throttle control, you dont have to bury your foot every time you press the gas pedal....

                That i would have to see....

                may be possible to an extent with a small turbo like that

                Matt is right, even on my car the 57trim would fall off up top

                rx7-8.89@157mph
                12v dodge, twins

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                  revolutionz_s13
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                  #124

                  well, fabers turbo(AMS GT32) is roughly equivalent to a garrett 50 trim, .60 a/r. Which is smaller in size and probably less efficient (AMS wont give out the exact specs) than a GT3076R, .82 a/r. Faber has no problems up top, I dont think I will have to worry about that. There is a guy on ka-t.org that is making 417whp with a similar setup to mine @ 19psi with a gt3076r .82 a/r.

                  > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
                  > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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                  • K Offline
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                    KA-T_240
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #125

                    my gt32 doesnt fall off up top! the turbo has a gt3251e CHRA, with custom precision housings. IMO the turbo is like a 57trim out put wise, while spooling like a 50trim(all refering to t3/t4, .63AR)

                    and WTF do you mean buy 57trim. you need to be WAY more specific about those things. There are thousands of differant 57trim turbos on the planet.

                    PM me for:
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                    Diesel repairs or performance products.

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                      KA-T_240
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #126

                      bubba you will be in SM due to motor swap.

                      that makes 5 of us in SM for next year.

                      PM me for:
                      Sandblasting(I use glass beads)
                      Diesel repairs or performance products.

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                        revolutionz_s13
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #127

                        assuming i get my POS together and down to the cities to get tuned....

                        > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
                        > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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                          Joel
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                          #128

                          KA-T_240;196278 wrote:
                          my gt32 doesnt fall off up top! the turbo has a gt3251e CHRA, with custom precision housings. IMO the turbo is like a 57trim out put wise, while spooling like a 50trim(all refering to t3/t4, .63AR)

                          and WTF do you mean buy 57trim. you need to be WAY more specific about those things. There are thousands of differant 57trim turbos on the planet.

                          he means a t3/t4 57 trim... the "tufte turbo". Even I knew that.

                          no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                            KA-T_240
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                            #129

                            wannabe;196287 wrote:
                            he means a t3/t4 57 trim... the "tufte turbo". Even I knew that.

                            OMG you think I am THAT dumb? Of course i knew what he meant.

                            I am just saying what i said. my dad gets some people every once and while that come in asking for a 50 or 57trim. my dad knows what they are. but is always like which one, there is thousands and gets the dumbest look on the kids faces.

                            PM me for:
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                            Diesel repairs or performance products.

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                              Joel
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #130

                              lol, you confuse me faber, if you didn't mean it, why did you say it, and go into detail?

                              no race car? becuz homeowner...

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                                revolutionz_s13
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                                #131

                                wannabe;196290 wrote:
                                lol, you confuse me faber, if you didn't mean it, why did you say it, and go into detail?

                                ahahahahah, have you ever met faber? and did you really have to ask?:D

                                > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
                                > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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                                  KA-T_240
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #132

                                  What do you mean go into detail?

                                  I said it because i was trying to make a point.

                                  PM me for:
                                  Sandblasting(I use glass beads)
                                  Diesel repairs or performance products.

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                                    bubba
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                                    #133

                                    KA-T_240;196283 wrote:
                                    bubba you will be in SM due to motor swap.

                                    that makes 5 of us in SM for next year.

                                    So basically im fucked, lol...

                                    Current Cars:
                                    08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
                                    93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
                                    90 Honda CRX - Project car
                                    90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

                                    Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                                      zbrown
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                                      #134

                                      like faber said, trim is nothing more than (ind^2/exd^2)*100

                                      57trim is just a common name given to a popular T04E compressor

                                      My gt42 has a 53 trim compressor and 84 trim turbine....

                                      if you have the trim # and either ind or exd it is easy to find the other

                                      rx7-8.89@157mph
                                      12v dodge, twins

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                                        DrifterExtreme
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                                        #135

                                        revolutionz_s13;196277 wrote:
                                        well, fabers turbo(AMS GT32) is roughly equivalent to a garrett 50 trim, .60 a/r. Which is smaller in size and probably less efficient (AMS wont give out the exact specs) than a GT3076R, .82 a/r. Faber has no problems up top, I dont think I will have to worry about that. There is a guy on ka-t.org that is making 417whp with a similar setup to mine @ 19psi with a gt3076r .82 a/r.

                                        now see i'm running the same turbo same specs, i got the atp 3" v-band.

                                        now with my motor i should see full boost buy say 4800ish give or take based on my monster manifold. now i rev to 9k so i will have a power band.

                                        but unlike you i will not make near the torque you will, so all i'm saying is that you need to look at the fact that it will just make it harder fo ryou to drive the car to it's potential. but i spose we will see next year.

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                                          zbrown
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                                          #136

                                          kinda curious

                                          so lets say 400whp....

                                          how much boost would it take Matt to make that? and how much torque

                                          vs

                                          how much boost with the KA, and how much torque

                                          with identical turbos; the ones you stated above

                                          rx7-8.89@157mph
                                          12v dodge, twins

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