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  • JoelJ Offline
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    Joel
    wrote on last edited by
    #128

    KA-T_240;196278 wrote:
    my gt32 doesnt fall off up top! the turbo has a gt3251e CHRA, with custom precision housings. IMO the turbo is like a 57trim out put wise, while spooling like a 50trim(all refering to t3/t4, .63AR)

    and WTF do you mean buy 57trim. you need to be WAY more specific about those things. There are thousands of differant 57trim turbos on the planet.

    he means a t3/t4 57 trim... the "tufte turbo". Even I knew that.

    no race car? becuz homeowner...

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    • K Offline
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      KA-T_240
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      #129

      wannabe;196287 wrote:
      he means a t3/t4 57 trim... the "tufte turbo". Even I knew that.

      OMG you think I am THAT dumb? Of course i knew what he meant.

      I am just saying what i said. my dad gets some people every once and while that come in asking for a 50 or 57trim. my dad knows what they are. but is always like which one, there is thousands and gets the dumbest look on the kids faces.

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      • JoelJ Offline
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        Joel
        wrote on last edited by
        #130

        lol, you confuse me faber, if you didn't mean it, why did you say it, and go into detail?

        no race car? becuz homeowner...

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          revolutionz_s13
          wrote on last edited by
          #131

          wannabe;196290 wrote:
          lol, you confuse me faber, if you didn't mean it, why did you say it, and go into detail?

          ahahahahah, have you ever met faber? and did you really have to ask?:D

          > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
          > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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          • K Offline
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            KA-T_240
            wrote on last edited by
            #132

            What do you mean go into detail?

            I said it because i was trying to make a point.

            PM me for:
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            • bubbaB Offline
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              bubba
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              #133

              KA-T_240;196283 wrote:
              bubba you will be in SM due to motor swap.

              that makes 5 of us in SM for next year.

              So basically im fucked, lol...

              Current Cars:
              08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
              93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
              90 Honda CRX - Project car
              90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

              Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                zbrown
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                #134

                like faber said, trim is nothing more than (ind^2/exd^2)*100

                57trim is just a common name given to a popular T04E compressor

                My gt42 has a 53 trim compressor and 84 trim turbine....

                if you have the trim # and either ind or exd it is easy to find the other

                rx7-8.89@157mph
                12v dodge, twins

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                • DrifterExtremeD Offline
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                  DrifterExtreme
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                  #135

                  revolutionz_s13;196277 wrote:
                  well, fabers turbo(AMS GT32) is roughly equivalent to a garrett 50 trim, .60 a/r. Which is smaller in size and probably less efficient (AMS wont give out the exact specs) than a GT3076R, .82 a/r. Faber has no problems up top, I dont think I will have to worry about that. There is a guy on ka-t.org that is making 417whp with a similar setup to mine @ 19psi with a gt3076r .82 a/r.

                  now see i'm running the same turbo same specs, i got the atp 3" v-band.

                  now with my motor i should see full boost buy say 4800ish give or take based on my monster manifold. now i rev to 9k so i will have a power band.

                  but unlike you i will not make near the torque you will, so all i'm saying is that you need to look at the fact that it will just make it harder fo ryou to drive the car to it's potential. but i spose we will see next year.

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                  • zbrownZ Offline
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                    zbrown
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                    #136

                    kinda curious

                    so lets say 400whp....

                    how much boost would it take Matt to make that? and how much torque

                    vs

                    how much boost with the KA, and how much torque

                    with identical turbos; the ones you stated above

                    rx7-8.89@157mph
                    12v dodge, twins

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                    • DrifterExtremeD Offline
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                      DrifterExtreme
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                      #137

                      gt3076r, 18 lbs , high 200's for torque.

                      now this is with a small .48 turbine

                      http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery&cmd=si&img=397509

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                        revolutionz_s13
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #138

                        on the KA, you will see ~400whp @ roughly 19-20psi, hitting full boost by roughly 5k-6k rpms(dont quote me on that....) depending on setup. That should net you depending on tuning, about 350ft-lbs of torque.
                        this would be the gt3076r with the .82 a/r turbine

                        here is a dyno from some guy down in georgia that has a similar setup to mine....
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                        > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
                        > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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                        • K Offline
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                          KA-T_240
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #139

                          revolutionz_s13;196336 wrote:
                          on the KA, you will see ~400whp @ roughly 19-20psi, hitting full boost by roughly 5k-6k rpms(dont quote me on that....) depending on setup. That should net you depending on tuning, about 350ft-lbs of torque.
                          this would be the gt3076r with the .82 a/r turbine

                          here is a dyno from some guy down in georgia that has a similar setup to mine....
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                          Ivan has 40psi on his gt42 sooner then 6k.

                          you should have around 20psi at like 4k.

                          PM me for:
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                            revolutionz_s13
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                            eh maybe...like i said not too sure about that...i thought it would be about 4200-4400 from when i did all the calculations from the compressor map, but i wasnt sure if i figured right.

                            > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
                            > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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                            • K Offline
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                              KA-T_240
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #141

                              you do remember how fast my turbo spools. and yours should spool around the same as mine does. The DBB should somewhat make up for you having a .82ar

                              PM me for:
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                                DrifterExtreme
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                                #142

                                ball bearing doesn't mean faster spool...... you should know that faber...haha

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                                  revolutionz_s13
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                                  #143

                                  well in a round about way it does....it takes less force to spin a DBB cartridge than it does to spin a ceramic journal bearing cartridge...which means the turbo wheel will reach higher speeds faster...which means the compressor will flow more air faster = boost faster.

                                  > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
                                  > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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                                  • K Offline
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                                    KA-T_240
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                                    #144

                                    Yes, i know this. DBB makes the turbo more efficient, also get more devoted lubrication and coolin. and then what nate said.

                                    I would be hard, but if you have 2 identical turbos one with journal bearing and the other with the DBB, 95% of the time the DBB will spool faster then JB turbo,

                                    WITH ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL

                                    PM me for:
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                                      DrifterExtreme
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                                      #145

                                      borg warner? ....

                                      haha ok now i'm just being diffecult...

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                                        zbrown
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                                        #146

                                        thats interesting, thanks

                                        for comparison here is what your typical 13b rew will do

                                        here is a graph of a typical single setup.... gt 3582r---1.06a/r

                                        13-15 psi, 320-340lb-ft, 400rwhp, full boost 4k

                                        you need alot bigger turbo for the same power.......

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                                        rx7-8.89@157mph
                                        12v dodge, twins

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                                          nvrdone
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                                          #147

                                          Ok, back to the class/setup thing.

                                          1988 RX-7 GXL - Full suspension, coilovers, bushings, sways, everything.. Rebuilt 6-port n/a, itb's, prolly microtech lt8, cage..

                                          guessing sm as its still a dd setup I hope :drunken_smilie:

                                          2000 SC1 - S1 SPL car, 136.9db atm
                                          1988 RX-7 GXL - waiting for my lazy ass to finish high comp turbo swap

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