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  • R Offline
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    revolutionz_s13
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    #131

    wannabe;196290 wrote:
    lol, you confuse me faber, if you didn't mean it, why did you say it, and go into detail?

    ahahahahah, have you ever met faber? and did you really have to ask?:D

    > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
    > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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      KA-T_240
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      #132

      What do you mean go into detail?

      I said it because i was trying to make a point.

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        bubba
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        KA-T_240;196283 wrote:
        bubba you will be in SM due to motor swap.

        that makes 5 of us in SM for next year.

        So basically im fucked, lol...

        Current Cars:
        08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
        93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
        90 Honda CRX - Project car
        90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

        Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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          zbrown
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          #134

          like faber said, trim is nothing more than (ind^2/exd^2)*100

          57trim is just a common name given to a popular T04E compressor

          My gt42 has a 53 trim compressor and 84 trim turbine....

          if you have the trim # and either ind or exd it is easy to find the other

          rx7-8.89@157mph
          12v dodge, twins

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            DrifterExtreme
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            #135

            revolutionz_s13;196277 wrote:
            well, fabers turbo(AMS GT32) is roughly equivalent to a garrett 50 trim, .60 a/r. Which is smaller in size and probably less efficient (AMS wont give out the exact specs) than a GT3076R, .82 a/r. Faber has no problems up top, I dont think I will have to worry about that. There is a guy on ka-t.org that is making 417whp with a similar setup to mine @ 19psi with a gt3076r .82 a/r.

            now see i'm running the same turbo same specs, i got the atp 3" v-band.

            now with my motor i should see full boost buy say 4800ish give or take based on my monster manifold. now i rev to 9k so i will have a power band.

            but unlike you i will not make near the torque you will, so all i'm saying is that you need to look at the fact that it will just make it harder fo ryou to drive the car to it's potential. but i spose we will see next year.

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              zbrown
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              #136

              kinda curious

              so lets say 400whp....

              how much boost would it take Matt to make that? and how much torque

              vs

              how much boost with the KA, and how much torque

              with identical turbos; the ones you stated above

              rx7-8.89@157mph
              12v dodge, twins

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                DrifterExtreme
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                #137

                gt3076r, 18 lbs , high 200's for torque.

                now this is with a small .48 turbine

                http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?act=module&module=gallery&cmd=si&img=397509

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                  revolutionz_s13
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                  #138

                  on the KA, you will see ~400whp @ roughly 19-20psi, hitting full boost by roughly 5k-6k rpms(dont quote me on that....) depending on setup. That should net you depending on tuning, about 350ft-lbs of torque.
                  this would be the gt3076r with the .82 a/r turbine

                  here is a dyno from some guy down in georgia that has a similar setup to mine....
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                  > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
                  > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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                    KA-T_240
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #139

                    revolutionz_s13;196336 wrote:
                    on the KA, you will see ~400whp @ roughly 19-20psi, hitting full boost by roughly 5k-6k rpms(dont quote me on that....) depending on setup. That should net you depending on tuning, about 350ft-lbs of torque.
                    this would be the gt3076r with the .82 a/r turbine

                    here is a dyno from some guy down in georgia that has a similar setup to mine....
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                    Ivan has 40psi on his gt42 sooner then 6k.

                    you should have around 20psi at like 4k.

                    PM me for:
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                      revolutionz_s13
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #140

                      eh maybe...like i said not too sure about that...i thought it would be about 4200-4400 from when i did all the calculations from the compressor map, but i wasnt sure if i figured right.

                      > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
                      > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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                        KA-T_240
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                        #141

                        you do remember how fast my turbo spools. and yours should spool around the same as mine does. The DBB should somewhat make up for you having a .82ar

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                          DrifterExtreme
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                          ball bearing doesn't mean faster spool...... you should know that faber...haha

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                            revolutionz_s13
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                            well in a round about way it does....it takes less force to spin a DBB cartridge than it does to spin a ceramic journal bearing cartridge...which means the turbo wheel will reach higher speeds faster...which means the compressor will flow more air faster = boost faster.

                            > MisterCMK;207559 wrote:
                            > Of course the Astrovan won. I've seen one-legged children on tricycles beat v6 mustangs.

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                              KA-T_240
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                              Yes, i know this. DBB makes the turbo more efficient, also get more devoted lubrication and coolin. and then what nate said.

                              I would be hard, but if you have 2 identical turbos one with journal bearing and the other with the DBB, 95% of the time the DBB will spool faster then JB turbo,

                              WITH ALL THINGS BEING EQUAL

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                              Diesel repairs or performance products.

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                                DrifterExtreme
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                                borg warner? ....

                                haha ok now i'm just being diffecult...

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                                  zbrown
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                                  #146

                                  thats interesting, thanks

                                  for comparison here is what your typical 13b rew will do

                                  here is a graph of a typical single setup.... gt 3582r---1.06a/r

                                  13-15 psi, 320-340lb-ft, 400rwhp, full boost 4k

                                  you need alot bigger turbo for the same power.......

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                                  rx7-8.89@157mph
                                  12v dodge, twins

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                                    nvrdone
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                                    Ok, back to the class/setup thing.

                                    1988 RX-7 GXL - Full suspension, coilovers, bushings, sways, everything.. Rebuilt 6-port n/a, itb's, prolly microtech lt8, cage..

                                    guessing sm as its still a dd setup I hope :drunken_smilie:

                                    2000 SC1 - S1 SPL car, 136.9db atm
                                    1988 RX-7 GXL - waiting for my lazy ass to finish high comp turbo swap

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                                      GarageAlchemist
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                                      id like to see that...

                                      97 GTi, 03 KJ

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                                        nvrdone
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                                        Hopefully by next summer you will. Almost have enough saved for the rebuild.

                                        2000 SC1 - S1 SPL car, 136.9db atm
                                        1988 RX-7 GXL - waiting for my lazy ass to finish high comp turbo swap

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                                          King Ricer
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                                          nvrdone;196643 wrote:
                                          Ok, back to the class/setup thing.

                                          1988 RX-7 GXL - Full suspension, coilovers, bushings, sways, everything.. Rebuilt 6-port n/a, itb's, prolly microtech lt8, cage..

                                          guessing sm as its still a dd setup I hope :drunken_smilie:

                                          damn sounds like the nice set-up! what was your name again?

                                          > Trafik Jamz;299122 wrote:
                                          > But Freitag is a slut....everyone knows this!

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