Is GOD real?
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SmitEvo;197920 wrote:
FIX.Tj/k.... catholics are strict, I love the traditions and values that they have. The only thing that bothers me is that they judge and no one should be judging other than GOD.
yeah have noticed the whole strict thing at my church. This is prolly also a sin, but alot of the diehard catholics at my church are just downright assholes. OOps i didnt say that.
But like i said earlier, i dont follow my religion strictly, and I believe in alot of the things, yet others are a little unnecessary. And I am also against the judgement thing. Nobody should judge you except for god himself. Nobody else can determine if you are worthy of heaven.
"Only god can judge me now" Tupac.
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weshole;197927 wrote:
The one thing about the "catholic" version of christianity that always got to me is that no matter how much you sinned your whole life, you could just ask for Gods forgiveness and all is forgiven. That's at least what I was taught.Not True!!!
You are granted forgiveness ONLY if you are truly sorry for the sins you committed.
I believe this is a good thing because like Used posted earlier, throughout peoples sinful life they may be changed and become a totally different person. They discover jesus and they really want his help and his forgiveness.
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Yeah, seemed to me like alot of catholics have that attitude, but i'm not sure if thats what they actually teach. Thing is, if you're really a christian, you're not supposed to have the attitude of I can do whatever I want cause i can just ask for forgiveness. If you are really a christian and believe in God, and are truely following him and letting him lead your life, you should WANT to do what the bible teaches because it will make God happy. This is part of what the bible refers to as the fear(a healthy respect) of God.
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I think the number one threat to "Religion" is the "Church". If you actually sat down and looked at it, many things the Church/high religious authorities do or say are contradictory to God's word. Any church that hates homosexuals or anything like that is a hypocritical institution I believe. If they TRUELY followed God's word they'd leave the judgments to him and do everything they could to help people follow God and be saved.
I think this is a big reason there is a fairly strong anti-religion movement lately. The church is becoming oppressive again it seems and is really doing a good job at turning people away from morality and anything even remotely religious in nature. Pretty sad if you ask me...
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Used;197924 wrote:
Theres no argument here their is a GOD there is Jesus there is a Hold spirit!! try proving the bible wrong the bible is holy words. No book has stood the test of time like the bible has there is also evidence that there was a man named Jesus and that he was crucified by the romans back in the day. I just finished Teen Challenge which is a 13 month faith based treatment and just seeing and hearing god talk to you and others makes believers of all. People that were so lost in there life of drugs came to Teen Challenge and became completely new people. Ignorance is blissHow come you are so lucky that god talks to you i have to study up for 13 months to get that priviledge.
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StangerBanger96;197930 wrote:
I think the number one threat to "Religion" is the "Church". If you actually sat down and looked at it, many things the Church/high religious authorities do or say are contradictory to God's word. Any church that hates homosexuals or anything like that is a hypocritical institution I believe. If they TRUELY followed God's word they'd leave the judgments to him and do everything they could to help people follow God and be saved.I think this is a big reason there is a fairly strong anti-religion movement lately. The church is becoming oppressive again it seems and is really doing a good job at turning people away from morality and anything even remotely religious in nature. Pretty sad if you ask me...
I agree very strongly here, thats why there is different christian beliefs they basically believe the same thing but corruption and stupid shit has split people and cause turmoil for hundreds of years.
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Used;197924 wrote:
Theres no argument here their is a GOD there is Jesus there is a Hold spirit!! try proving the bible wrong the bible is holy words. No book has stood the test of time like the bible has there is also evidence that there was a man named Jesus and that he was crucified by the romans back in the day. I just finished Teen Challenge which is a 13 month faith based treatment and just seeing and hearing god talk to you and others makes believers of all. People that were so lost in there life of drugs came to Teen Challenge and became completely new people. Ignorance is blissSounds like all the celebrities that "find God" once they've fucked up their reputation someway and need to get back in the good graces of the people that make them their millions.
Completely new people, till they're caught with a pound of coke up thier nose, and 3 hookers on their johnson.
Bah.
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My roomate is catholic. He sits here and is like I won't do that because I am catholic.... and then just does something, that I personally would think is just as bad. He feels the same way about his friends from school(a catholic school) and often reffers to them as good catholic kids, even though the storys I have heard do not consider them so "good." If you understand what I am saying.
I do believe in a God or a Supreme being who created the universe and everthing in it. But, I do not think that not going to church every sunday, saying a bad word, and stuff like that is the fine line of going to heaven or hell.
Age of the world... I can not quote the exact part, but in the bible it says something along the lines of 1 second in Gods eyes is equal to 10,000 years in humans eyes. Or something like that.
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Oh, and any of the religious types on here. feel free to explain the actions of all the priests that like to fuck little boys.
Those religious "leaders", the ones you may be listening to every Sunday, are child molesters. It could be your pastor.
Let me guess, as long as they are truly sorry, they'll go to "heaven".
If that's true, I don't wanna go there(a place that accepts child molesters).
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2wheeler;197936 wrote:
Oh, and any of the religious types on here. feel free to explain the actions of all the priests that like to fuck little boys.Those religious "leaders", the ones you may be listening to every Sunday, are child molesters. It could be your pastor.
Let me guess, as long as they are truly sorry, they'll go to "heaven".
If that's true, I don't wanna go there(a place that accepts child molesters).
It's people like this that give Religion or religious people a bad image. It's the same as someone putting on a Laker's Jersey and murdering people...does that mean the Laker's support murder? No, but I still say I'm doing it in their name and it gives them a bad rep after awhile.
Same thing these priests or any fanatic do for Religion, they tarnish its true meaning by making foolish acts "in the name of" it.
What's worse is that people go along with them and blame the entire institution rather than the radicals...
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StangerBanger96;197930 wrote:
I think the number one threat to "Religion" is the "Church". If you actually sat down and looked at it, many things the Church/high religious authorities do or say are contradictory to God's word. Any church that hates homosexuals or anything like that is a hypocritical institution I believe. If they TRUELY followed God's word they'd leave the judgments to him and do everything they could to help people follow God and be saved.I think this is a big reason there is a fairly strong anti-religion movement lately. The church is becoming oppressive again it seems and is really doing a good job at turning people away from morality and anything even remotely religious in nature. Pretty sad if you ask me...
QFT
Hate the action, not the person. The bible does teach that homosexuality is a sin, the bible also teaches that murder is a sin, stealing is a sin, adultry is a sin....ect. That does not mean that we should hate the people that commit these actions. The bible says, "We are all sinners and have fallen short of the glory of god." For this reason, noone should ever think that they are better, or more holy or sinless then another person. Sin is sin in God's eyes. Jesus himself didn't hang out and spend all his time with the high religious authrities who knew the scripture. He hung out with prostitutes, theives, other criminals and people that others might consider scum and who had probably never even heard God's word. He loved those people the same as he loves everyone.
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StangerBanger96;197937 wrote:
Same thing these priests or any fanatic do for Religion, they tarnish its true meaning by making foolish acts "in the name of" it.Depending where you sit on your views of religion, your definition of a religious fanatic will vary.
To be frank, Catholics scare me. I was an usher at a catholic wedding and I honestly had a hard time standing there during the rehearsal. What surprised me even more was when a family member who I thought was a devoted catholic finally got fed up with the radical beliefs of the catholic church and went lutheran (at that same rehersal basically). But after sitting there listening to the priest speak about the religion - to tell me that they truly believe that the blood of christ is in the vase and the body of christ was in his hand - to see the way young children were led along like mindless minions (children that age are too immature to know what they really believe - it's brainwashing IMO) - I HONESTLY shook it worked me up that much. In any other situation, with these actions, had these not been based under a christian/catholic religion - it would have been a cult and scorned until it was blue in the face.
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my god looks like slash, drives a big foot monster truck, and parties SEVEN days a week. why? because he is god and god doesnt need a whole day to rest, thats just childish.
also, he prefers pepsi to coke. i know right, i couldnt believe it either.
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I'm not sure, I know that organized religion is a joke, think priest alterboy scandals. I also can't deny the fact that sometimes I really can believe there is a god. That said I don't think that I will be judged on weither or not I have accepted JC as my lord and savior. I just try to be a good guy, maybe watch a little less porn this year than I did last year, and if there is a god and i'm judged to be deserving of the fires of hell I guess I'll be in good company because a lot of fuckers are coming with me.
91teggy;197908 wrote:
Or so they believe its more of a theory than anything i dont know if they are wrong or right but im not a scientist but from what i have read its accurate for a few thousand years after that its a guessing game the technology hasnt been around long enough to give any real proof.Yes you are absolutly right the technology hasn't been around for hundreds of millions of years so there is no way to prove it. Except that it has been proven that atoms, especially carbon, decay at a certain rate. So I think its safe to asssume that you can get pretty darn close by checking out the carbon atoms of a really old rock or bone. We are talking about hundreds of millions of years here whats a few thousand here and there.
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