wow we're famous on clubgp
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Belo;204968 wrote:
I drive a modded 98gtp.You hate on Pontiac's for the same reasons, a lot of us also hate Honda's.
- They're usually daily drivers
- They're "girl" cars (although I disagree with that from both sides)
- Honda and Pontiac don't produce exotic V12s, therefore you can't be proud of your car
The only difference I see in grand prixs and Honda's is that most Honda's can't even be made "that" fast. Of course you can add a turbo, and the same goes for adding a turbo to a grand prix gt.
Why many people have a misconstrued conception of the gtp is because, appearance wise it looks the same as an SE or GT . You can call the 3800 crap, but when you put an m90 blower on top, it's nothing to joke about. Sure it still runs mid 14's bone stock. But tell me a Honda (s2000 excluded) that does that?
Put 2 grand into the engine of a gtp and you're at high 12's or low 13's. That's approaching vette territory. I can imagine, but I would like proof that I'm wrong. But adding 2 grand into a civic wont get you into to 12s.
I raced my buddies heavily modded 00 si bone stock and had him by multiple lengths. So this is my only comparison. But still.
I believe if it's your passion, then fine. I apologize for some of the clubgp comments. But we get aggravated at a lot of the ricers out there. Your fart cannons are annoying and your wings are unnecessary. You wont find a gp with a fart cannon from clubgp. Maybe cammed, headers and a 3" exhaust, but that's a different story. Those mods add hp, not an annoying sound.
2 grand could get a civic into the high 12's low 13's easily... And alot of the members on here's "fart cans" are actually real performance cat-backs...and good luck finding "wings" on our cars, unless it's a stock spoiler... u dont know anything about any of us or our cars so stfu... U used the same points as the rest of ur little friends...we heard, most of us dont really give a shit... send all ur little friends to our track...i'll be laughing my ass off when some little 4 cylinders hand them their asses...
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Wow, way to handle the civil arguement I presented. I never said "you" were driving around with wings. Just that we all see a lot of civics like that. It wasn't meant as a personal attack bud.
And yes, that is starting w/ a blower. That's our point exactly. We're improving on a nice stock design. And while I'll say again. Do what you want with your car and I'll do what I want with mine. The point is a civic wasn't meant to be a performance automobile. The gtp was, or they would have never put a blower on it.
I'm sure we can meet up at the track. And I'm sure we'd have a good race, I just don't live in ND. But I sure do love my blower when she wines.
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I didn't mean to sound mean or like i was arguing with you, i was just presenting a case of one civic. I agree it is good that everyone does something different, it would be boring if we all did the same.
And don't listen to bubba, he has nothing better to do than sit and argue that hondas are the only option.
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And again, I post it. I have scene a NA 1.6L SOHC 92-95 civic hatch with no NA build or spray...... run a 14.5. It was kevins gold car. Matt also ran 14.28 or something like that with a B16 swapped hatch.
I like GTPs, they are WAY WAY better then the 4.0L Olds Aurora in the garage next to my 240. Sucks to drive in anything other then dry pavement. and for being a luxury car no room.
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inspector01;204979 wrote:
And don't listen to bubba, he has nothing better to do than sit and argue that hondas are the only option.No, they were the ones that came on here flaming us and ragging on hondas...I was just merely defending my stance... I had a regal 3.8L liked the car, always wanted a GN and kinda like the s/c regals... Everyone has their own choices, fine with me...doesnt have to mean u go into other forums just to stir shit up....
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KA-T_240;204980 wrote:
And again, I post it. I have scene a NA 1.6L SOHC 92-95 civic hatch with no NA build or spray...... run a 14.5. It was kevins gold car. Matt also ran 14.28 or something like that with a B16 swapped hatch.I like GTPs, they are WAY WAY better then the 4.0L Olds Aurora in the garage next to my 240. Sucks to drive in anything other then dry pavement. and for being a luxury car no room.
That hatch probaly only weighs 2200lbs. Takes a little more to move 3600lbs .
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snow99dohc;204983 wrote:
That hatch probaly only weighs 2200lbs. Takes a little more to move 3600lbs .Did you honestly just say this?? Obviously, but that is the difference, you don't need as much power to go fast if you are lighter. That doesn't take away from their times.
The civic also only has a 1.6L, it is a little easier to do with more than twice the displacement.
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[QUOTE=Belo;204968]
I believe if it's your passion, then fine. I apologize for some of the clubgp comments. But we get aggravated at a lot of the ricers out there. Your fart cannons are annoying and your wings are unnecessary. [QUOTE]i gots a fart can and a wing does that make me a ricer??
2003 Mitsubishi Evolution 8
2011 Ford F150 Ecoboost
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YellowEvo;205020 wrote:
[QUOTE=Belo;204968]
I believe if it's your passion, then fine. I apologize for some of the clubgp comments. But we get aggravated at a lot of the ricers out there. Your fart cannons are annoying and your wings are unnecessary. [QUOTE]i gots a fart can and a wing does that make me a ricer??
Yes...
wait....
maybe???
Shit hows does it work when a car comes stock with them. lol
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Belo;204978 wrote:
But I sure do love my blower when she wines.Yeah blowing some nice hot air..........
The GTP guys and i have something in common, this is sorta funny
take a look at this pic, it is of my car from way back in HS when i was first creative.... what do you see? ha ha thats right an M90...
but now i upgraded..............
I vote hondas and GP's FTL
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inspector01;204979 wrote:
I didn't mean to sound mean or like i was arguing with you, i was just presenting a case of one civic. I agree it is good that everyone does something different, it would be boring if we all did the same.And don't listen to bubba, he has nothing better to do than sit and argue that hondas are the only option.
Thanks. And my comment was addressed to him, not you.
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bubba;204981 wrote:
No, they were the ones that came on here flaming us and ragging on hondas...I was just merely defending my stance... I had a regal 3.8L liked the car, always wanted a GN and kinda like the s/c regals... Everyone has their own choices, fine with me...doesnt have to mean u go into other forums just to stir shit up....Understandable, and we get links like these every once in a while. I felt that this time I had to come in and defend the forum and appologize for some of our members that's all.
I only read the first 3 pages, so I don't know what was said. And sure a civic can corner better and weighs less. The grand prix has its pros and cons too.
I like GTPs, they are WAY WAY better then the 4.0L Olds Aurora in the garage next to my 240. Sucks to drive in anything other then dry pavement. and for being a luxury car no room.
I assume you're talking about the aurora. But the gp was never meant and isn't a luxury car.
As for handling, there's things we do to make our ride handle better (all of which I've done), just like you guys make your cars faster on straights.
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bubba;204976 wrote:
...and good luck finding "wings" on our cars, unless it's a stock spoiler...I have a wing on my car, does this make me not cool now?
(its a CF S202 wing based on the Spec-C's spoiler from Japan....yes, it is a knock-off, but it is an exact replica)
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