Fuck gas prices...
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bottom line is, gas is gonna suck to buy until someone can sneak by the oil companies and start mass producing hydrogen powered vehicles.
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^^^ The FCX is very tits, but an all electric vehicle would be better I believe (although I'm not an engineer). Electrolysis is energy intensive. Then you have to compress and store the hydrogen in order to burn it. Thermodynamics would suggest a simpler way would be to directly power a vehicle through electricity. I'm sure hydrogen fuel cells have numerous advantages of their own, which is why both should be used instead of relying on just one technology.
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Anyone can attempt to rationalize the run-up in oil prices through various cockameme scenarios. In the end, however, the fact that abiotic oil theory was disproved decades ago suggests that a supply/demand equilibrium will be reached, and, in fact, we will have to stop using oil at some point because it will simply become too expensive.
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Ok...just my random thought here (again). Bush went to OPEC and asked for more oil to be released. They said that they are meeting the current DEMAND so they will not increase the SUPPLY. So, if the SUPPLY=DEMAND then the only thing that could be running the prices up is the weakened dollar and speculation on the commodity markets.
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It would be in OPEC's interest to keep the oil price high, be it through artificial witholding or the fact they're pumping flat out. Track the tanker frequency if you want a clear picture, as most OPEC states do not allow outside oil reserve review, especially Saudi Aramco. Regardless, you realize we get most of our imported oil from Canada, Mexico, then Saudi Arabia right? The U.S. still produces a lot of her oil.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWGsnW_NnxE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sPDNR2YS3s
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Whatever I bought a bike to get my big ass to work and back and will probibly be looking for a german diesel burner next year. The cougar will still be around to suck up a few hundred dollars in fuel here and there tho.
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torbs;219693 wrote:
nearly $70 to fill up a fucking Honda........................What has this world come to?/rant
Going back the the original post, it cost me $30 to fill up my honda yesterday, from E.
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reshalghoul wrote:
Electrolysis is energy intensive. Then you have to compress and store the hydrogen in order to burn it. Thermodynamics would suggest a simpler way would be to directly power a vehicle through electricity. I'm sure hydrogen fuel cells have numerous advantages of their own, which is why both should be used instead of relying on just one technology.Which is why there is speculation that within the next 50 to 100 years the Midwest (ND/MN/SD) will become the next Saudi Arabia for energy production. What I've read is that massive wind farms will be built in the Dakotas to power electrolysis plants in MN/Wisconsin which would be converting water from the great lakes/land of 15,000+ lakes into hydrogen.
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pics from CES this year of a tri-fuel vehicle from GM. Process goes something like this:
E85 motor runs to drive an electrical generator which then separates hydrogen out of a water reservoir....E85 motor also drives a compressor to compress the Hydrogen. Hydrogen then fuels a forced induction hydrogen powered engine. Byproduct of the burning hydrogen is water which is captured from the exhaust and filtered/separated and placed into the water reservoir where it is separated by the electric generator, etc, etc, etc...
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im a little behind on the hydrogen fuel technology, but have they found an proven alternative to fossil fuels for extracting hydrogen? if theyre still using fossil fuel its the same game with a different name.
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d^flex;219951 wrote:
im a little behind on the hydrogen fuel technology, but have they found an proven alternative to fossil fuels for extracting hydrogen? if theyre still using fossil fuel its the same game with a different name.Well you could use a place that gets its electricity from a Nuclear power plant, Windmills, or Hydroelectric Dam. Otherwise more than likely it's being powered by a Coal/Gas power plant. You need a match to start the fire...once the process of electrolysis is refined or they find a better way to extract hydrogen you can bet that the power to extract it will probably be coming from cleaner fuel sources than fossil fuels. Fossil fuels will be necessary to help jump start the change though...
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they should just bring back steam engines...
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yes, i know that.
coal is cheap as dirt.
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Yeah can't wait till premium is over 4 bucks a gallon. Fucking shit. I'm gonna get my car tuned to run on cocaine as that will be cheaper than gas soon.
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Cost me $60 to fill up my STI yesterday...
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kid i worked with just left to move up to northern ND where him and his friend are working with his friend's dad to make a tractor engine run on hydrogen then they are going to enter it into a tractor pull up there. they are working with a couple sources to try get access to a windmill to create hydrogen and working on ways to transport/store hydrogen the most efficiently.
you wouldn't be able to store just water up here without some type of heater running all the time to stop the water from freezing in the winter.
would you NEED to compress the hydrogen to store it, couldn't be stored as a gas without running a compressor? it would be explosive, but so is gas? sry if i'm being stupid, but someone please explain. n/m i found the answer. http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/hydrogen-storage-tanks.htm
this is a neat website on the future of cars... http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/index.htm
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