OBAMA is a socialist!!!!
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DrifterExtreme;244100 wrote:
dude there was already 2 skin heads caught plotting, from what i heardThey were looking to kill 88 black people, and cut off the heads of 12 black people, than go for killing Obama and die trying. -- I wonder how the hell they thought they'd make it past the 88 deaths of black people to even get as far as Obama?
And as for the media, I don't listen or let it bother me, since they are saying the Polls are in favor of Obama, yet.. In reality, they are probably more neck & neck... But the media is biased IMO -- They even have done studies on it, basically how it breaks down is that Obama has twice as many good comments towards him and half as many negatives of McCain. ---
And I have thought about the trickle down effect... When Bigger businesses are getting taxed more, so they have to cut spending to make up for their losses --- That could mean more people jobless.. I don't know about you, but the Govt. doesn't give me paychecks, my employer does.
Since about 80% of the population is middle class, it would make most sense for Obama to push to ensure he is supportive of them. They will make up a large portion of the voting population.
However, the idea of giving the middle-class more tax breaks -- means they will be spending more.. But I think with an economy in recession, a lot of middle class people will be very conservative.. Look at the gas prices... Global demand drops considerably, pushing prices to lows that we haven't seen since 2005... It probably won't be rising anytime real soon since most people have accustomed to taking public transportation, ride-sharing, or any other way of saving on gasoline such as hybrids. I think the same will go for spending... The middle class may not go right on out & spend money when they are seeing a little tax break here/there... If it was a bigger lump sum all at once.. It would be more effective I would think. Like the $600 rebate checks we got last May... Larger sum -- since we can go out & maybe buy something nice.. $25 here/there won't make a significant difference to our spending habits.
Overtime, I think with the recession, other prices will drop since demand will be down, and a bigger factor into pricing was gasoline for transportation of goods... Either way, I believe we hit rock bottom and our on a uphill walk back to a normal economy -- there is no simple quick fix..
Anyone here been listening to how Palin plans to run for 2012 if McCain loses? That would be interesting.. I wonder if Hillary will run again if McCain/Palin win..?
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zbrown;244112 wrote:
Come Help A Nigger Get Elected??WoW -- that's hilarious...
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MisterCMK;244124 wrote:
Stereotypes are generally formed for a reason...I do believe this though (probably sounds racist, which I am not..) I believe Obama gets more media attention due to his race. -- How else would a 2 year senator be able to run for president? I do believe that Hillary Clinton is way more qualified, but public opinion on her obviously wasn't good enough in comparisson to Obama. Just as I think Palin gets more attention over McCain due to her gender(& looks HAHA). She pulls bigger crowds than McCain. Joe Biden, you barely even hear about that guy..
McCain really has a lot to work against... Negative biased Media, Bush being a republican and having an all-time low approval rating.. Obama pushing to compare him to Bush to push a negative opinion on him. -- Poor guy had to choose a person like Palin to get some media attention haha! -
Parker;244110 wrote:
yeah... great shape.... if thats what you want to call it.... a 2 point spread is "great shape"uhh....
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
good night McCain...see you in 4 years Ms. Palin (take some public speaking courses in about 6 or 7 different colleges to brush up on your abilities)
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tjamz;244137 wrote:
uhh....http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/
good night McCain...see you in 4 years Ms. Palin (take some public speaking courses in about 6 or 7 different colleges to brush up on your abilities)
how many points was bush down when he ran last election year?... google that chuck....i cant remember how that election turned out...
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Zero...he was up going into the last few weeks.
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Under these conditions, the preelection pollsters in 2004 had an unusually good year historically in estimating the winner of the election. The majority of the polls estimated that Bush would win, and their estimates of his performance and his margin over Kerry were among the best recorded in the contemporary period.
http://poq.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/69/5/642According to that, they were good. But I don't really remember personally.
Either way, I don't put much faith in polls either.
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They've only been wrong 1 time that I'm aware of....and that was when a newspaper mistakenly said that someone else won the election
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I've forgotten more about politics than most of you know....
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MisterCMK;244149 wrote:
Chuck, what would you do without google?I dunno....resort to my Time-Life book collection outlining the 20th century and maybe my back copies of Readers Digest?
It would be really tough if Parker asked me to use google to find something and then I would get all confused asking a number that consists of a 1 and one hundred "0's" a question and it looking at me all like...wtf dude, I'm a number...not an internets...go ask that yahoo over that what you want to know!
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Parker;244148 wrote:
this is way to easy to get you libs riled up.....
u chuckI think it is funny the other way around that I can debate successfully a message board full of conservatives that somehow think the world would be better with zero taxes and zero social programs.
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