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  • fdfreakF Offline
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    Does anyone know anything about Meth Injection? I have been looking into it lately and from what I hear, it is the cats "MEOW" for rotaries. I know that 100% water will decrease hp but in turn cool your engine significantly. I also read that a 100% meth is like using race gas but also is a cleaner and longer burn but you run the risk of an engine fire (lord knows i dont need that again). I see most people are using a 50/50 mixture (dont know if 50/50 is by volume, mass, or molecular mass) and are having great results with it. Just wanting some insight. I am looking at this AEM kit inparticular, it seems to be fairly popular.

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      here is some good info
      tons of links

      http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12614948

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      • fdfreakF Offline
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        ^that is very helpful. thank you. Is anyone on here using meth injection?

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        • gsrEKG Offline
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          i belive Z31 does

          2009 Yamaha Zuma 125, gas HOG
          2008 Honda Fit daily
          A s2k
          2002 Subaru WRX winter whip SOLD
          1993 civic DD/racecar 327hp on a mustang dyno SOLD
          1991 Honda civic DX Mint SOLD
          1988 Mitsubishi Mighty max

          > BlackEJ8;233529 wrote:
          > Has anyone else noticed that almost every one of the recent threads turns into spanish-rice and gsrek bs-ing lol

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          • GrrG Offline
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            i sold jason one of my kits, i probably ran 150 gallons of meth through it, i think he has run about 40 gallons through it. My first kit i ran about 100 gallons through. Great stuff, really addicting, but you have to set it up right or it will bite you in the ass. What questions do you have?

            2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
            2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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            • no_slow_clapN Offline
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              What kit is that?

              I know the aquamist kit is pretty good. and i have heard good things about the Labonte kit as well.

              SMC kit is terrible, the pump cant keep up and fail.

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              > ryanherington;4648360 wrote:
              > I think I'm gonna stop by Autozone and get a "worthy-amount" meter. My car might not put down enough worhty, and I don't wanna get in the way.

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              • gsrEKG Offline
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                no_slow_clap;269931 wrote:
                What kit is that?

                I know the aquamist kit is pretty good. and i have heard good things about the Labonte kit as well.

                SMC kit is terrible, the pump cant keep up and fail.

                it a kit made by a company called AEM guess im not sure if you have heard of them you evo guru

                2009 Yamaha Zuma 125, gas HOG
                2008 Honda Fit daily
                A s2k
                2002 Subaru WRX winter whip SOLD
                1993 civic DD/racecar 327hp on a mustang dyno SOLD
                1991 Honda civic DX Mint SOLD
                1988 Mitsubishi Mighty max

                > BlackEJ8;233529 wrote:
                > Has anyone else noticed that almost every one of the recent threads turns into spanish-rice and gsrek bs-ing lol

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                • zbrownZ Offline
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                  lolz^

                  rx7-8.89@157mph
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                  • gsrEKG Offline
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                    zbrown;269935 wrote:
                    lolz^

                    the evo fourms must be too baller to know what the AEM kit is haha

                    2009 Yamaha Zuma 125, gas HOG
                    2008 Honda Fit daily
                    A s2k
                    2002 Subaru WRX winter whip SOLD
                    1993 civic DD/racecar 327hp on a mustang dyno SOLD
                    1991 Honda civic DX Mint SOLD
                    1988 Mitsubishi Mighty max

                    > BlackEJ8;233529 wrote:
                    > Has anyone else noticed that almost every one of the recent threads turns into spanish-rice and gsrek bs-ing lol

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                    • RaiderR Offline
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                      the most common I have read on the blown F150's used the snow performance meth kits

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                      • fdfreakF Offline
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                        Grr;269894 wrote:
                        i sold jason one of my kits, i probably ran 150 gallons of meth through it, i think he has run about 40 gallons through it. My first kit i ran about 100 gallons through. Great stuff, really addicting, but you have to set it up right or it will bite you in the ass. What questions do you have?

                        I guess the I only have a few questions. Are they difficult to install? At what point after the IC do you tap in the nozzle? directly after the IC or right before the trottle body?

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                          there are alot of options really. If your just running a small shot a single M10 or M15 nozzle can be placed anywhere within 10" of the throttle body, (standard kit) wherever is conveinient. If your running a big shot, 2 M10 nozzles can be used, (dual nozzle kit obviously) i prefer them staggered about 6". If your running a huge shot like i was, you can run 2 M10s in the charge pipe, and one M5 right before the inducer of the turbo. Doing this increases compressor efficiency by about 10%, and does a unreal job of precooling the charge. The Alkycontrol kit, AIS kit, AEM kit, and Snow kit are good. I had a SMC kit once and it wasnt very good. Also, only run 100% meth, mixing it isnt worth it, the gains are from the meth, not the water. I may be getting a new Alkycontrol kit for my TA in the near future, I reccomend that one over all the rest, simply because Julio has the best customer service on the planet. And they can be installed in about 20-40 min, very easy

                          2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
                          2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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                          • zbrownZ Offline
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                            AI >> A2A IC

                            You get the shorter charge piping (boost response), detonation resistance, an internally clean engine, and can get a sub ambient IAT with AI.......... with a good A2A IC you can get close to ambient, never lower obviously....and that is about it

                            granted it is just one more system.....although when i was running mine progressively with the the Haltech it was super simple and the standalone controlled everything

                            here is an excellent real world comparison, with actual IAT #'s comparing .......... take a look at this thread

                            F, I cant find it, I forget the OP's name....... but it is an excellent thread in the AI section if you can find it

                            rx7-8.89@157mph
                            12v dodge, twins

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                              thanks guys

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                                does it matter at what angle the nozzles are mounted at? I know that the nozzles atomize the alcohol and the boost pressure takes care of the directional path, but just curious if there are any advantages or disadvatages mouting the nozzles at an angle rather than having them orthoganal to the IC piping.

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                                • GrrG Offline
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                                  you want them perpendicular, they atomize better that way as it causes it to shear

                                  2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
                                  2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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                                    gsrEK;269934 wrote:
                                    it a kit made by a company called AEM guess im not sure if you have heard of them you evo guru

                                    wonderfull. good thing i can read, huh.

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                                    > ryanherington;4648360 wrote:
                                    > I think I'm gonna stop by Autozone and get a "worthy-amount" meter. My car might not put down enough worhty, and I don't wanna get in the way.

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                                      I would have thought the Evo Guru would have known that.

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                                        DelSlow;270009 wrote:
                                        I would have thought the Evo Guru would have known that.

                                        I didnt say Meth Guru.

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                                        > ryanherington;4648360 wrote:
                                        > I think I'm gonna stop by Autozone and get a "worthy-amount" meter. My car might not put down enough worhty, and I don't wanna get in the way.

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