Low 8 second LT1, factory block, 16 lbs of boost.
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94NDTA wrote:
So, when those 4g63's run 7's, thats not impressive? Why are they impressive, and this isn't? I know they are smaller, but they run a hell of a lot more boost, and generally are lighter than what they came out of the factory. This car is factory weight, without a 4 link, and horribley designed 23 degree heads.On non inline engines it is. V8's are basically pulling themselves apart. Not to many V-desing engine can say they have accomplished this.
Im not saying an 8 second pass is not impressive, not in any passenger car. I am saying the fact that its on stock block really doesnt matter.
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camzaro28 wrote:
i believe the dsm motors were built somewhat for boost.
the ltx motors were not built in any way to handle boost, so it wouldnt be smart at all to use stock internals!hI think you guys are missing the point. When you have upgraded internals inside of a block, you can expect it to make considerably more power. What would have the car extremely unique is if it had been on stock internals.
On the other hand, DSM's are lightweight. AWD adds quite a bit of weight and they arent slim to begin with. Oh, and we have 1/2 the engine that most of the V8's have, and 550hp on stock internals is not unheard of. Shit, PSI2HI did that.
"built" for boost? yeah. 1/2 the engine of the v8's? yeah.
So is it impressive that we can still go 7's with upgraded internals? yeah, i'm not saying its not impressive that car can as well, but its not ONE of a kind out there.
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Jim wrote:
I think you guys are missing the point. When you have upgraded internals inside of a block, you can expect it to make considerably more power. What would have the car extremely unique is if it had been on stock internals.On the other hand, DSM's are lightweight. AWD adds quite a bit of weight and they arent slim to begin with. Oh, and we have 1/2 the engine that most of the V8's have, and 550hp on stock internals is not unheard of. Shit, PSI2HI did that.
"built" for boost? yeah. 1/2 the engine of the v8's? yeah.
So is it impressive that we can still go 7's with upgraded internals? yeah, i'm not saying its not impressive that car can as well, but its not ONE of a kind out there.
I think you are missing my point. The LT1 isn't the end all be all motor from GM. The 4g63 is. In fact, a lot of people ditch it for SB2 or SBC motors once they start making insane amounts of hp. It is an inferior motor. Inline motors havea distinct advantage of their blocks being more capable of holding together. V designed engines have to deal with cylinder pressure AND the engine trying to pull itself apart. It's a trade off you get for more cubic inches. FOR THIS ENGINE, this is very impressive. FOR THE AMOUNT OF BOOST, this is impressive. FOR THE CARS WEIGHT, This is impressive. FOR THE DESIGN OF THE HEADS, this is impressive. And last but not least, FOR UTILIZING A STOCK STLYE SUSPENSION, this is impressive. -
a white guy with a 20 inch cock is impressive..sorry
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mwc1 wrote:
a white guy with a 20 inch cock is impressive..sorryyou fag, Ban him!
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shut up freitag it was a joke.
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i figured that i was just giving you shit.
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im planning of going deep into the 15's...any congrats there?
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im saying my car is slow and running stock
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It surprises me that the Mustang/LT1 guys didn't think of using Turbos 10-15 years ago. They seem to run extremely fast with them. That was a nice run. Didn't you say the interior was all there? Is your suspension similar to what he is running (mius the wheelie bar.)?
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wannabe wrote:
werent you the one saying how you would blow your car before turboing it, and now this thing totally blows your mind? duh..... what?
Nay, I said I would supercharge it over putting an STS turbo on it. I would put a PTK kit on it over a supercharger however.Get the facts straight Jack!
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weshole wrote:
You stated that the heads weren't any good. I have NEVER heard of anything coming from AFR that was no good. 23 degrees or not they will still flow like a sumbitch.
AFRs are very nice, but the 23 degree heads are much worse than the average small block chevy head, 18 degrees, or brodix 15 degree heads. A lot of people ditch 23's when starting to make seriouse hp. -
It is amazing what you can do with a stack of money and some free time. I mean a guy did walk on the moon you know.
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