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Are there any shops up here that don't rip you off. Everyplace seems to charge one hell of a mark up on thier parts and or services. For example, I was quoted over $600 dollars to do color window tint from Team (Grand Forks) and they told me Tintmasters changes $200 more than they do.
WTF??? Is this true!!!
Although, that would explain why there are so my ricers up here, they can't afford to buy the real parts so they just fake it. BTW, where can I find one those BOV simulators, lambo door kit, and a big alluminum wing for my Fiesta. J/K -
freeman_j wrote:
Are there any shops up here that don't rip you off. Everyplace seems to charge one hell of a mark up on thier parts and or services. For example, I was quoted over $600 dollars to do color window tint from Team (Grand Forks) and they told me Tintmasters changes $200 more than they do. WTF??? Is this true!!!
Although, that would explain why there are so my ricers up here, they can't afford to buy the real parts so they just fake it. BTW, where can I find one those BOV simulators, lambo door kit, and a big alluminum wing for my Fiesta. J/K
If you got beef with prices, do it yourself. -
freeman_j wrote:
Are there any shops up here that don't rip you off. Everyplace seems to charge one hell of a mark up on thier parts and or services.It's called being in business. You want it, you pay for it. Why would businesses give their services and product away? That's not how you pay employees, rent, keep product on the shelves, etc.
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wannabe wrote:
If you got beef with prices, do it yourself.You must work for said shops if you are defending them, for that I am sorry, must be bankin' off these poor kids who are willin' to pay the jacked up prices.
I do all my own mods. However, I am not an experienced window tinter and I don't have the patience (I have done it in the past). In the south they charge 1/3 of the price they do up here, as I said "ripoff". At that price you could drive down to Texas, have your windows tinted, drive back and still save a couple hundred dollars. hmm...might do that...ROAD TRIP!!!!
If you go on the internet you can get your parts way below what any of the local shops charge. That's what I do but I thought I would check the local shops just out of convenience. It is crazy with what they try to charge you just to turn around and order the parts off the internet themselves.
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integra_gsr98 wrote:
It's called being in business. You want it, you pay for it. Why would businesses give their services and product away? That's not how you pay employees, rent, keep product on the shelves, etc.Wow, I could have sworn the cost of living in Cali was much higher then in North Dakota, but wait a minute thier parts are cheaper, so are the paint shops, custom shops, ect......hmm. They seem to be paying thier rent okay.
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freeman_j wrote:
Wow, I could have sworn the cost of living in Cali was much higher then in North Dakota, but wait a minute thier parts are cheaper, so are the paint shops, custom shops, ect......hmm. They seem to be paying thier rent okay.
No. I am onbe of the people you say are getting ripped off. I wish I was in the business. Personally, this is really stupid of you to say that. More people live in California. If they sell them cheaper and to more people, they make the same profit as someone who overcharges and sells less. Around here, the demand isn't huge. Some Cliches for ya:
-If you can't stand the heat, get outta the kitchen
-Pay to Play.If you can't afford tint, you obviously aren't ballah enough to have it. BTW, did you seriously ask about colored tint?
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freeman_j wrote:
Wow, I could have sworn the cost of living in Cali was much higher then in North Dakota, but wait a minute thier parts are cheaper, so are the paint shops, custom shops, ect......hmm. They seem to be paying thier rent okay.parts may be SLIGHTLY cheaper than here since you don't pay freight on them, but other than bodykits (hoods, trunks included) freight isn't that bad. Labor cheaper on custom parts? I doubt it. Ask any shop around here if they ever charge for every single hour of labor for the cars they work on, the answer is no. I've been in the stereo industry long enough to know that you won't get any lower prices on audio equipment (due to minimum advertised pricing for most decent lines of equipment) in LA than you will in F-M from a reputable dealer and they charge significantly more for custom jobs. Maybe I just know of the high class install places, but a few of my buddies in Vegas and Orlando run shops and charge $100/hour for custom stereo installs...plus materials of course. Around here, what do you pay? $50/hour tops...and then the shop USUALLY throws in a few free hours if its a huge system. Its all apples/oranges when comparing our market to theirs.
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HA, yeah, why should you pay them to do work on your car? Thats just crazy talk right there. I don't understand why they don't just do it for cost. Thos bastards.
EDIT: What kind of vehical are you putting the tint on? How many windows? You need to factor these things in with the price.
Also, as said before, do it yourself if you don't like the price. These shops also take in the responsability to do it right and not screw up your car. If they screw up, they don't charge more, they re-do it, which also costs money. This is another reason why they charge money. The average person cannot do this.
Also, the other shops you speak of are larger shops with more people to sell their products too. The shops in town cannot buy as large a bulk in tint as larger shops. You need to figure in all these small things.
$600 for color tint isn't that bad. I would like to see you get $200 in Texas for color tint with the same quality job that you would get here.
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Color window tint is like tinting the windows twice, thats why its about twice as expensive. You don't understand how hard it is to keep TWO sheets of tint clean compared to one.
Besides that, they offer lifetime warranties on scratches, peeling, fading, etc...
As you said yourself, you dont have the patience to do window tinting, its not easy, so obivously thats why you would pay somebody to do it....
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wannabe wrote:
did you seriously ask about colored tint?I asked out of curiousity. I saw some of the tintmaster guys from Fargo at some of the car shows with the colored tint on their cars and was curious about how much it costs. Personally I think it is ricey, but that's my opinion.
I was mainly using the tint as an example of crazy prices. I wasn't talking about labor either (I guess on the tint I was). I was talking about the mark up on parts. They don't need to sell at cost, but they don't need to sell $100+ over either. If their business is suffering that bad where they need to do these huge mark ups to make up for it, they need to get out of business. That's just common sense to me.
As I said earlier I do my own mods so I am not worried about labor. I just thought maybe it would be more convenient to run down the street and pick up the parts then to order them online. Besides like I said earlier, half the parts you buy from the local shops are ordered online by them so you are basically paying a middle man. Even if I have to pay for shipping I still save tons of cash ordering online for myself and alot of companies don't charge for shipping so that's even more cash saved.
Also, it is stupid to use the quote: "You have to pay to play" because with the money you could save by avoiding these shops you could "Play" a hell of alot more.
I am just venting because I would rather go into a shop a deal with a real person, but I am not willing to get ripped off to do so.
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PSiedTSi wrote:
If you think prices are so high and they can make it with lower prices why don't you start your own shop and sell at those prices you are talkin about? Thats just common sense to me.It's not about me wanting to open up my own shop. It's about being price gouged. I'd be glad to order parts for anyone at a $10 mark up from my home. You are on to something though, if there was more competition prices would drop.
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why would we order parts and give you $10 for something we can just order? Ill buy parts in town because of convenience and I can support friends and/or the local market. Who cares if i pay $20 more to help someone put food on their families table? And plus when your order online you never know what your gonna get and you dont have an actual shop backing it...its just a webpage in cyberspace that doesn't have to support shit!
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I dont think you understand how this stuff works at all.
You order your parts at home for that $10 markup, pay shipping, hope and pray it shows up, and then when it shows up you wind up being one of those guys that brings stuff in that was bought on the internet and wants it installed. Then you pay the premium labor rate because you didn't purchase the product from the local shop. By the time it's all said and done you may have paid more for that part and installation than you would have if you would have purchased the part from a local shop.
Why should we have a store that is open 40+ hours a week and only sell stuff at 10 dollars over cost? I don't think you understand what comes with having a shop at all. With a local shop you get expertise, advice, and a place to go for installation and any problems that may arise are taken care of locally instead of over the internet via email.
If you had any idea what went into your "overpriced tint" you'd realize why they charge so much as well. Two layers of film, one layer of film that doesn't like to lay on the windows to start, and the fact that your whole car is being torn apart, cleaned, tinted, cleaned, tinted, and put back together for that $600 sounds like a pretty fuckin good deal to me.
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PSiedTSi wrote:
why would we order parts and give you $10 for something we can just order? Ill buy parts in town because of convenience and I can support friends and/or the local market. Who cares if i pay $20 more to help someone put food on their families table? And plus when your order online you never know what your gonna get and you dont have an actual shop backing it...its just a webpage in cyberspace that doesn't have to support shit!First of all, I need the $10 so I can put food on my families table. J/K
You asked me why I don't open up my own shop, because I am not stupid and I know the demand isn't that high, plus I am not one to rip people off so I can put food on my table.
So you are telling me they only mark up $20...Bull..
You are also telling me that the shop is going to back that nitrous system which just blew the crap out of your engine. You bought from them, they installed it, they are responsible for backing up the product. I Don't Think So!!
Besides most of these webpages are actual shops which have internet sales so they do stand behind thier products just as much as the local shops do.
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freeman_j wrote:
First of all, I need the $10 so I can put food on my families table. J/KYou asked me why I don't open up my own shop, because I am not stupid and I know the demand isn't that high, plus I am not one to rip people off so I can put food on my table.
So you are telling me they only mark up $20...Bull..
You are also telling me that the shop is going to back that nitrous system which just blew the crap out of your engine. You bought from them, they installed it, they are responsible for backing up the product. I Don't Think So!!
Besides most of these webpages are actual shops which have internet sales so they do stand behind thier products just as much as the local shops do.
Nitrous and tint are two different things. You being a dumbass and blowing the hell out of your engine, they won't, no performance shop will. -
if you go to tintmasters, they use parts from nopi.com, so you're saying parts are cheaper online, bull. you go to shane and ask him how much an exhaust would be for your car and it would be the same price as online. And dude you're not getting ripped off, these places do really good quality work, so if you don't want to pay this much move south or to cali and get made fun of.
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