Slow Cars....
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dynasty_v6 wrote:
No, must not have been you. The driver said his was a 200hp one. He one the first race, but lost pretty bad the second time around. He even insisted that vw rates their cars at the wheels. Ya, sure they do...We beat a 12 valve one like yours with exhaust and intake by a good 3-4 cars at 80 the other night. When the cop went to pull us over that basturd kept on going and got away. Fudge should have left him behind.
Left to right (from the driver's perspective) it went white prelude, silver VW, black tiburon, it was on 13th avenue going west, right before or at the intersection before I-29. believe me, i was the VW guy.
I said it had 174hp at the wheels, about 200 at the crank. Assume somewhere in the neighborhood of 13-15% driveline loss and the crank number roughly equals 200. I dont doubt you beat a VR6 around 80mph, they're a much more powerful, torquey motor down low than in the high rpm's...was it a current body style (MK4) or older? I've seen a black lowered MK3 GTi VR6 running around with a dual-tip exhaust, was that the one?
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This shits got to be the funniest thing I have read in a while... dude gravedigger you just dont give up do you? You were basically analy raped by all the honda owners on the boards and you still keep going.
Im not bragging or anything here dude but lets put my FORD FOCUS... thats right kids just like little jimmy said its a FORD not a fred or a ferd but a FORD Focus. Price I paid $17,500 brand spankin new with warranty and everything. Price for a used Jacson Racing Supercharger kit with exactly 1,000 miles on it $1500. Price for a 2.4 pulley to raise boost from 5psi to 8.5psi $265, price for MBRP Cat-Back exhaust $240 and Focus Central Off Road Pipe ( down pipe to eliminate cat ) $200, Price for a Steeda short ram intake $165, price for a Diablo Predator tuner for the SVT with 4 tunes already installed $500.
Grand Total $20,370 now this isnt exact but when all is said and done it will be around $21,000 about the price of your car out the door. Those above mentioned mods will give me close to 270whp and 250wtq with the diablo predator tuning my car. That will factor down to low 13's in the 1/4 on street tires and stock 17" rims stock suspension and stock clutch and flywheel. Now dish out another $1700 for slicks and steelies, new clutch, new flywheel, bigger injectors, bigger fuel pump, and send the diablo back to have the new tune added for new parts. That factors down to really low 13's to high 12's trapping at close to 120mph. From a dig the car is slow due to its very long 1st gear. Also I could spend another $1000 and get a quaife LSD ( limited slip differential for you gravedigger cause im sure you dont know about LSD cause your car will never see one ) And ill pull high 12's all day and night. Also with those mods I really doubt there would be many cars that would pull on me from a 40drop. And I could probably see 165+mph I love my Getrag!
Peace!
RobP.S. Sell your P.O.S. Korean car... only reason hyundai is still around is because they bought kia to dig themselves out of a large hole. Kia fucking blows worse then lego cars but their cheap and people will buy anything thats cheap.
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Dont get too excited about that getrag tranny....
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TurbodGermanPat wrote:
Left to right (from the driver's perspective) it went white prelude, silver VW, black tiburon, it was on 13th avenue going west, right before or at the intersection before I-29. believe me, i was the VW guy.I said it had 174hp at the wheels, about 200 at the crank. Assume somewhere in the neighborhood of 13-15% driveline loss and the crank number roughly equals 200. I dont doubt you beat a VR6 around 80mph, they're a much more powerful, torquey motor down low than in the high rpm's...was it a current body style (MK4) or older? I've seen a black lowered MK3 GTi VR6 running around with a dual-tip exhaust, was that the one?
Hmm, ok in your very first post you said it was a 12 valver 174 hp, now you're changing your story and say it's at the wheels. What gives?
Were you Modded or something? The one we raced looked brand new, It had newest rims I think.No it was a white one, probibly 98 and didn't seem too pristine.
A 24 valve one is within 100 LBs of the prelude and would be a very close race. Why'd you get rid of it and what do you drive now?
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what I said at the race was "VW rates it at 174hp at the weels, somewhere around 200at the crank." How am I changing my story? The 12v VR6 in 2001 and older cars makes 174hp, the new VR's (2002 and up) have a 24valve head and make 200hp at the wheels. I drove the older variety.
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TurbodGermanPat wrote:
what I said at the race was "VW rates it at 174hp at the weels, somewhere around 200at the crank." How am I changing my story? The 12v VR6 in 2001 and older cars makes 174hp, the new VR's (2002 and up) have a 24valve head and make 200hp at the wheels. I drove the older variety.If you drive the older one how do you have 200 hp then? Never heard of any manufacturor rating their cars at the wheels.
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Flowcus wrote:
Grand Total $20,370 now this isnt exact but when all is said and done it will be around $21,000 about the price of your car out the door. Those above mentioned mods will give me close to 270whp and 250wtq with the diablo predator tuning my car. That will factor down to low 13's in the 1/4 on street tires and stock 17" rims stock suspension and stock clutch and flywheel. Now dish out another $1700 for slicks and steelies, new clutch, new flywheel, bigger injectors, bigger fuel pump, and send the diablo back to have the new tune added for new parts. That factors down to really low 13's to high 12's trapping at close to 120mph. From a dig the car is slow due to its very long 1st gear. Also I could spend another $1000 and get a quaife LSD ( limited slip differential for you gravedigger cause im sure you dont know about LSD cause your car will never see one ) And ill pull high 12's all day and night. Also with those mods I really doubt there would be many cars that would pull on me from a 40drop. And I could probably see 165+mph I love my Getrag!Peace!
RobP.S. Sell your P.O.S. Korean car... only reason hyundai is still around is because they bought kia to dig themselves out of a large hole. Kia fucking blows worse then lego cars but their cheap and people will buy anything thats cheap.
I dunno if high 12's is trapping at 120 mph
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I do think though that Rob's focus is one of the most under rated N/A FWD cars out there. Period. I hate Ford, I hate everything about them to be quite honest but the first time I drove his SVT I was SERIOUSLY impressed. The interior is sharp, very thoughful and well done. Backseat is comfortable. The car screams practicality and is very peppy in the upper rpm range for stock. Fun car to drive whether your racing or daily driving. If that car had 250 whp in all honesty, to me at least, 20 g's would be well worth it.
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Then i would have to say your crazy...
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[QUOTE=Flowcus] That factors down to really low 13's to high 12's trapping at close to 120mph. From a dig the car is slow due to its very long 1st gear. Also I could spend another $1000 and get a quaife LSD ( limited slip differential for you gravedigger cause im sure you dont know about LSD cause your car will never see one ) And ill pull high 12's all day and night. Also with those mods I really doubt there would be many cars that would pull on me from a 40drop. And I could probably see 165+mph I love my Getrag!
Peace!
RobQUOTE]How's about everyone quits the bench racing BS and the estimated hp #'s. We can all sit here all day long and say if i had this if i had that i'dmake this much hp, and go this fast. When in all reality that is such a BS claim. You all sit on here and argue about how's car will be faster w/ these fantasy mods.
If you're running low 13's, high 12's @ 120mph you have got to be the worst drag racers known to man especially w/ the LSD and slicks you list in this fantasy build.
I can list off a dozen cars in this town that would roll you from 40 mph roll.
Everyone quit the dreaming, fantasizing, and bench racing, go out get a fucking job, get off your lazy ass and maybe buy some parts so we dont have to listen to you all talk about them all day everyday.
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12 sec front wheel drive car.... not a whole lot of those rolling around fargo. I can think of one or two. It's a LOT more difficult than most people think. you can pretty much rule out any NA car and any turbo car with a stock turbo, and you can rule out most any car that is still full weight...
DaveH
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I cant wait until i get my Turbo/Supercharged Diesel Engine for my Eclipse ..i will be running 7's then...hows that for fantasizing:D
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How about we spend assloads of money we dont have chasing dreams that will never come true then file bankruptcy and have our daddy's bail us out? I have a fucking job working harder then youll ever even think about working in your pathetic little life asshole. And im learning a trade that in the next couple of years will have me making more money than about 95% of the people I went to highschool with. There are more priorities in life then cars you know. But thats fine if you want to sit around jerking off thinking about driving your 10second car that doesnt even run anymore you do that. Ill keep working my job putting money away towards a house and more important things and slowly modify my car like im doing.
Im probably more financially balanced than youd think of a 19yr old kid. I have priorities set and im working towards them. And if you want to talk about getting off your ass and working come work with me on a job site one day and lets see how long you last doing what I do. I doubt you would make it... shit I dont remember the last 8hr day I worked... and im just waiting to get sent out of town to work nice long 12hr days. Not to mention the stress and job load you get thrown on your shoulders at the end of a job when shits not going right. I may only be an apprentice but the journeymen pass their shit down on us to lighten the load.
Now before you open your high and mighty mouth again do some research into the people your bitching out. Just because you have a 10 second car doesnt make you better then us. Jesus christ im sick of people that think their shit dont stink.
Thats for the fucktard that popped off on me and my quote... you know who you are dickhead.
Peace!
Rob
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