Slow Cars....
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Dont get too excited about that getrag tranny....
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TurbodGermanPat wrote:
Left to right (from the driver's perspective) it went white prelude, silver VW, black tiburon, it was on 13th avenue going west, right before or at the intersection before I-29. believe me, i was the VW guy.I said it had 174hp at the wheels, about 200 at the crank. Assume somewhere in the neighborhood of 13-15% driveline loss and the crank number roughly equals 200. I dont doubt you beat a VR6 around 80mph, they're a much more powerful, torquey motor down low than in the high rpm's...was it a current body style (MK4) or older? I've seen a black lowered MK3 GTi VR6 running around with a dual-tip exhaust, was that the one?
Hmm, ok in your very first post you said it was a 12 valver 174 hp, now you're changing your story and say it's at the wheels. What gives?
Were you Modded or something? The one we raced looked brand new, It had newest rims I think.No it was a white one, probibly 98 and didn't seem too pristine.
A 24 valve one is within 100 LBs of the prelude and would be a very close race. Why'd you get rid of it and what do you drive now?
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what I said at the race was "VW rates it at 174hp at the weels, somewhere around 200at the crank." How am I changing my story? The 12v VR6 in 2001 and older cars makes 174hp, the new VR's (2002 and up) have a 24valve head and make 200hp at the wheels. I drove the older variety.
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TurbodGermanPat wrote:
what I said at the race was "VW rates it at 174hp at the weels, somewhere around 200at the crank." How am I changing my story? The 12v VR6 in 2001 and older cars makes 174hp, the new VR's (2002 and up) have a 24valve head and make 200hp at the wheels. I drove the older variety.If you drive the older one how do you have 200 hp then? Never heard of any manufacturor rating their cars at the wheels.
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Flowcus wrote:
Grand Total $20,370 now this isnt exact but when all is said and done it will be around $21,000 about the price of your car out the door. Those above mentioned mods will give me close to 270whp and 250wtq with the diablo predator tuning my car. That will factor down to low 13's in the 1/4 on street tires and stock 17" rims stock suspension and stock clutch and flywheel. Now dish out another $1700 for slicks and steelies, new clutch, new flywheel, bigger injectors, bigger fuel pump, and send the diablo back to have the new tune added for new parts. That factors down to really low 13's to high 12's trapping at close to 120mph. From a dig the car is slow due to its very long 1st gear. Also I could spend another $1000 and get a quaife LSD ( limited slip differential for you gravedigger cause im sure you dont know about LSD cause your car will never see one ) And ill pull high 12's all day and night. Also with those mods I really doubt there would be many cars that would pull on me from a 40drop. And I could probably see 165+mph I love my Getrag!Peace!
RobP.S. Sell your P.O.S. Korean car... only reason hyundai is still around is because they bought kia to dig themselves out of a large hole. Kia fucking blows worse then lego cars but their cheap and people will buy anything thats cheap.
I dunno if high 12's is trapping at 120 mph
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I do think though that Rob's focus is one of the most under rated N/A FWD cars out there. Period. I hate Ford, I hate everything about them to be quite honest but the first time I drove his SVT I was SERIOUSLY impressed. The interior is sharp, very thoughful and well done. Backseat is comfortable. The car screams practicality and is very peppy in the upper rpm range for stock. Fun car to drive whether your racing or daily driving. If that car had 250 whp in all honesty, to me at least, 20 g's would be well worth it.
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Then i would have to say your crazy...
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[QUOTE=Flowcus] That factors down to really low 13's to high 12's trapping at close to 120mph. From a dig the car is slow due to its very long 1st gear. Also I could spend another $1000 and get a quaife LSD ( limited slip differential for you gravedigger cause im sure you dont know about LSD cause your car will never see one ) And ill pull high 12's all day and night. Also with those mods I really doubt there would be many cars that would pull on me from a 40drop. And I could probably see 165+mph I love my Getrag!
Peace!
RobQUOTE]How's about everyone quits the bench racing BS and the estimated hp #'s. We can all sit here all day long and say if i had this if i had that i'dmake this much hp, and go this fast. When in all reality that is such a BS claim. You all sit on here and argue about how's car will be faster w/ these fantasy mods.
If you're running low 13's, high 12's @ 120mph you have got to be the worst drag racers known to man especially w/ the LSD and slicks you list in this fantasy build.
I can list off a dozen cars in this town that would roll you from 40 mph roll.
Everyone quit the dreaming, fantasizing, and bench racing, go out get a fucking job, get off your lazy ass and maybe buy some parts so we dont have to listen to you all talk about them all day everyday.
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12 sec front wheel drive car.... not a whole lot of those rolling around fargo. I can think of one or two. It's a LOT more difficult than most people think. you can pretty much rule out any NA car and any turbo car with a stock turbo, and you can rule out most any car that is still full weight...
DaveH
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I cant wait until i get my Turbo/Supercharged Diesel Engine for my Eclipse ..i will be running 7's then...hows that for fantasizing:D
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How about we spend assloads of money we dont have chasing dreams that will never come true then file bankruptcy and have our daddy's bail us out? I have a fucking job working harder then youll ever even think about working in your pathetic little life asshole. And im learning a trade that in the next couple of years will have me making more money than about 95% of the people I went to highschool with. There are more priorities in life then cars you know. But thats fine if you want to sit around jerking off thinking about driving your 10second car that doesnt even run anymore you do that. Ill keep working my job putting money away towards a house and more important things and slowly modify my car like im doing.
Im probably more financially balanced than youd think of a 19yr old kid. I have priorities set and im working towards them. And if you want to talk about getting off your ass and working come work with me on a job site one day and lets see how long you last doing what I do. I doubt you would make it... shit I dont remember the last 8hr day I worked... and im just waiting to get sent out of town to work nice long 12hr days. Not to mention the stress and job load you get thrown on your shoulders at the end of a job when shits not going right. I may only be an apprentice but the journeymen pass their shit down on us to lighten the load.
Now before you open your high and mighty mouth again do some research into the people your bitching out. Just because you have a 10 second car doesnt make you better then us. Jesus christ im sick of people that think their shit dont stink.
Thats for the fucktard that popped off on me and my quote... you know who you are dickhead.
Peace!
Rob -
Flowcus, chill out man, it's just a forum. He expressed his opinion and you expressed yours, no need to go psycho on him cuz he doesn't agree w/ you. When did he say he was better than the rest of us? All he said was that until it becomes reality AND you put down the numbers that you claim, then all it is is speculation. I'm guilty of it too. I was CONFIDENT that I could put some mid 12's up w/ my setup, others online had gone that fast or faster. My best is 13.20 @ 101mph. I dynoed 283 whp and 296 lbs/ft on pump gas. What does that mean? X amount of whp does NOT equate to a Y time or Z trap speed. There are tons of factors at work, not the least of which is getting enough traction out of a FWD car. I'm not saying you can't/won't be able to do it, I'm just saying that it's not as easy as bolting on parts, strapping in and running 12's. I think that is what Nick was saying in his post as well. You can say what you want about him, he has put up some great numbers w/ both the DSM and the Integra. He knows what is involved in getting to the next level of speed. And, I wouldn't really be cocking off about him not working long days, the SLS guys spend an awful lot of time at the shop working (as do all the other shops in town, not trying to discredit anyone here) I have no idea what you do for a living Rob, and this is not intended to be an insult to you (or anyone else on here). I am sure your job is just as demanding as everyone else's is (maybe more so) and I do wish you luck in your project(s).
Chuck
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The last I heard he had sold his 10 second car and is in the process of building not one but three....so yes he is better then you. Remeber, this is a car forum. This isnt a pissing contest involving schooling, education, employment(unless you build cars) or financial wellbeing. If you drive a svt focus and you cock off to the owner of one of the more prominent "speed shops" you are probably not the level headed well balanced 19year old you claim to be.
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