Exhaust Ticket Response from Fargo PD
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if it's a big deal on targeting ask them who they have been ticketing, get some stats. I also would like to see a db limit set, I wanna do some exhaust mods and don't wanna get hit either. Another thought....just a thought.....when a saleen mustang is built that exhaust is then factory from saleen. Chuck, you have a business, you can say that your car is the first TJamz subaru and therefore the exhaust is stock to that vehicle.
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u want to talk about how only one has gotten a ticket. how can he say he needs to start enforcing the law and yet no one else has been givin a ticket. there is no way he hasnt seen anyone with illegal exhaust since then. how come he hasnt pulled anyone else over, why did he choose him, and not say a truck or a motorcycle?
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there is a response to chucks letter in the chat with the chief section on the fpd website
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Jared Balow wrote:
u want to talk about how only one has gotten a ticket. how can he say he needs to start enforcing the law and yet no one else has been givin a ticket. there is no way he hasnt seen anyone with illegal exhaust since then. how come he hasnt pulled anyone else over, why did he choose him, and not say a truck or a motorcycle?what is your argument? The majority of the people are bitching about profiling of certain cars. Until you have the stats of who has been pulled over (eg. motorcycles, trucks, domestics, imports) we have no argument.......... Also we want to know is what constitutes a ticket..........do some research before you argue an old topic. that is what the search button is for.
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it's a very interesting link to have, lotsa good questions and a few dumb ones.
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Heres the deal, if a car is loud it SHOULD get pulled over, regardless of country of origin/age/style of vehicle. We've beaten this to death on here already. The ONLY thing I want in writing from the cop is what makes an exhaust illegal. Is any aftermarket exhaust illegal? My interpretation of his email to me is that yes it is by his standards. Which is total BS. I want clarity, so far all I've gotten is more confusion.
Again, IF A CAR IS LOUD IT SHOULD GET TICKETED. BUT if we have a buffer for alcohol consumption and driving (for example, most people can pass a sobriety test after having 1 or 2 beers) there must be some sort of leniency for exhaust upgrades, because last I checked a loud exhaust never killed anyone, but consuming one drink can and does slow your reflexes a bit.
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amicheze wrote:
do you have those stats that you were talking about? or are you just assuming this because youve only heard of one person getting a ticket?no stats here, but do you have any stats that they are profiling.......or do you believe everything you read in the paper
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i said i saw a cop every few miles and. which even if lots of cops were there, u really think they would have none out patroling. im just telling what i saw and what i think
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Jared Balow wrote:
i said i saw a cop every few miles and. which even if lots of cops were there, u really think they would have none out patroling. im just telling what i saw and what i thinkdo they pull over every one that speeds? I am sure its not that big of a priority, it is just another excuse to pull you over/make quota
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thatb is a good point
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fortunately they probably won't have to deal with us speed racers for about 4-5 months as its getting colder out now and a lot of us are putting them in storage.
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CCr wrote:
Another thought....just a thought.....when a saleen mustang is built that exhaust is then factory from saleen. Chuck, you have a business, you can say that your car is the first TJamz subaru and therefore the exhaust is stock to that vehicle.
As long as the "TJamz" subaru is DOT approved, just like every "Saleen" vehicle is. -
tjamz wrote:
fortunately they probably won't have to deal with us speed racers for about 4-5 months as its getting colder out now and a lot of us are putting them in storage.maybe by spring the majority of this will have calmed down and be in the back of everyones mind.
what is a good exhaust that will sound good and be farely quiet, for my 240, but not be a total $$$ killer
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2wheeler wrote:
As long as the "TJamz" subaru is DOT approved, just like every "Saleen" vehicle is.Right.
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No, I deserve a ticket for my exhaust. It's loud. I just don't want people to get tickets just because they have an exhaust and isn't loud.
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tjamz wrote:
Heres the deal, if a car is loud it SHOULD get pulled over, regardless of country of origin/age/style of vehicle.I disagree. (there's a surprise eh?). When the cops have all the serious crimes under control and have nothing better to do that pull someone over for a exhaust then I'd agree. But when there are meth labs to bust, child sex offenders running around, etc etc then they better get after that stuff rather than a silly exhaust ticket that just wastes their time and ours. Their job is to "protect and serve" not "fart around and waste time".
DaveH
'94 Supra- 7.77 @ 176mph
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