Yay for Demotratic Control!
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tjamz wrote:
Abe also stated "all men are created equal, except Negroes and foreigners and Catholics" as well as "if I could save the Union without freeing any slave I would do it."http://www.reason.com/news/show/33646.html
"in such a ruling an echo of Abraham Lincoln's famous 1855 letter to his friend Joshua Speed, in which the future president lays out a necessarily inclusive understanding of civil liberties and human rights. "We begin by declaring that 'all men are created equal,'" wrote Lincoln, who was then fretting over the rise of the anti-immigrant, Catholic-bashing, white-supremacist Know-Nothing Party. "We now practically read it, 'All men are created equal except negroes.' When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read, 'All men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and catholics.'" (Emphasis in original). Lincoln's basic point—that we cannot have different rights for minorities without eventually undermining rights for all—remains true today.""What I do about slavery, and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save the Union. This is how I see my official duty. It does not change my wish -- as a person -- that all men everywhere could be free."
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Who cares what Abe lincoln said, and what does it have to do with our national debt, homeland security, and the fact healthcare in this country is non existent.
Lets spend x amount of dollars on a war to save a few dollars on some oil (and take care of a personal vengence...)
You have to spend money to make money right?
Where the fuck is our money?...
Also in other news, politics is overrated. There is no end to it.
And another thing I do not go to church as so many of you bible banging repulicans do. Maybe there is some weird connection with religion and politics somewhere that does not alow me to give a damn anymore?
Some say morals, I say quit reading the bible.
Sorry for the rant, now back to work.
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FUCK politician's and all of there god damn lies....... "ill lower your income tax's" then they go behind your back and increase land tax's...... you show me a politician that "does not lie", and ill show you a lier.... and FUCK KERRY for insulting our troops..... and ALL OF YOU THAT VOTED FOR HIM LAST ELECTION...... and while im at it, ALL OF YOU THAT DONT BELIEVE IN STEM CELL REASERCH.......
except you chuck i
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well its about damn time, its been like 20 years since Democrats have had majority of BOTH the House and the Senate... but with a Republican President, this could be interesting!!
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politics is lame....as long as gas is cheap and its legal to drive, i'm in!
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2.5RS wrote:
and FUCK KERRY for insulting our troops..... and ALL OF YOU THAT VOTED FOR HIM LAST ELECTION...... and while im at it, ALL OF YOU THAT DONT BELIEVE IN STEM CELL REASERCH.......except you chuck i
you
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you too Parker...ewwwSeriously though, does anyone actually think that the words came out right when Kerry said that? I'm not saying he's Mr. Perfect, far from it, but the way the words came out would be career suicide if it was exactly what he meant.
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Come on now Chuck, this is as twisted as I've seen you post. LOL You are paying higher taxes because you are making more money than you ever have. Without GWB's tax cuts you would have been taxed more. Period.
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tjamz wrote:
Taxed to no end, huh? I've never paid higher taxes than I have with Bush in office. Period.DaveH
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When I see something like this I can only think to myself **"WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?" **The US of A has the very finest, leading edge healthcare there is. We are a little behind in getting some of the newer drugs, but thats just because the FDA is so strict on new stuff, trying to made sure everything is 100% safe before they allow it to the public. Not saying I agree with them, just stating a fact.
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and the fact healthcare in this country is non existent.DaveH
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When I see something like this I can only think to myself "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?" I was speaking of the lack of aid provided by our federal govt' helping people in need, or lack there of. Obviously we have more than enough "leading edge healthcare" sometimes more than enough.
For instance, its safe to say pharmaceutical reps are the devil. Without them Doctors would not push the next pill down our throat every time one comes out. Funny how about a year and half ago all of the sudden every one had acid reflux when no one had ever even heard of it before. The point I am getting at is the the "newer drugs" and older for that matter are a joke, and often used when not necessary. Look at the increase in the use, and number of different anti-depressants that plague everyday life for so many people just numbing the problem instead of getting to the source of it.
Lastly "natural" cures which are not even considered as they can not be trademarked could lead to a cure for cancer, aids, hepatitis or others. Reasoning is you cannot copyright, something that is classified as a natural supplement, so in other words, Doctors, The Devil (pharm reps), and pharmacies in general cannot make any money off them. So in other words, good job and you can thank DuPont for starting the trend in the mid 1930's when they assisted with the illegalization of the hemp plant. I am done on this subject as I could ramble on for pages about it.
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"Healthcare" has nothing to do with the government? The issue of universal healthcare has been a major topic of late, and it definately involves the government. In regard to the rest of the developed world we have a much higher percentage of people without healthcare insurance, and that leads me to the conclusion that we have a healthcare problem.
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DaveH wrote:
So this was just some phrase that has nothing to do with what you meant? "Healthcare" is not Government aid or whatever else you were talking about.I could go back and edit it for "you" if you would like?
It may help spare your confusion about what I was getting at... although I already took the time to highlight in another post a more detailed description of my what I was trying to get at...:icon_scratch:
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Yes, there are people who think that the government should pay for everyone's healthcare. Those people have twisted the word so that people think of insurance when you hear the word healthcare. But healthcare has nothing to do with the government or insurance. Healthcare is the practice of maintaining your health, which we in the USA have the finest facilities and people in the world for doing so. To say that healthcare in our country is non existant is just silly. We have the best.
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98sh wrote:
"Healthcare" has nothing to do with the government? The issue of universal healthcare has been a major topic of late, and it definately involves the government. In regard to the rest of the developed world we have a much higher percentage of people without healthcare insurance, and that leads me to the conclusion that we have a healthcare problem.DaveH
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Long thread, but overall I'm pleased, this board aparently is mildly left leaning, which makes me happy.
And dude with the gun in your avatar, I voted for kerry in the last election because he wasn't bush. I don't know exactly what he said about the "troops" but if they took offense at what he said, they are a bunch of pussies. If they are still wondering why they are over there, but know it's not because of what kerry said, then maybe they should ask more questions. Why are they there? Can they leave if they choose? I know I can quit my job when I feel like it. Can they quit theirs? Probably not.
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