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  • DaveHD Offline
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    Yes, the cost of healthcare is high, no doubt about it. But lets not socialize it. We would be much better off figuring out why it's so expensive in relation to other necessities, and attacking the problem that way. Relieving the legal burden would be a great start.

    • dh

    amicheze wrote:
    this is true. we might have the best heathcare in the world, but not many can actually afford it. thats the problem.

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      DaveH wrote:
      Yes, the cost of healthcare is high, no doubt about it. But lets not socialize it. We would be much better off figuring out why it's so expensive in relation to other necessities, and attacking the problem that way. Relieving the legal burden would be a great start.

      • dh

      exactly. im not saying we should have free heathcare or the government should pay for it. i just think the government should do something about it being so high. its getting way out of hand. i personally cant afford heath insurance and if i were to get sick i wouldnt be able to afford to go to the doctor either. last time i went to the doctor for an infection and they said they couldnt do anything and sent me home. i got a bill a week later for $130 for a visit that was literally less than 5 minutes long.

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      > i must be stupid

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        DaveH wrote:
        Yes, the cost of healthcare is high, no doubt about it. <u>But lets not socialize it.</u> We would be much better off figuring out why it's so expensive in relation to other necessities, and attacking the problem that way. Relieving the legal burden would be a great start.

        • dh

        QFT

        As to why it is high, there are 4 reasons

        1. Everyone is afraid of getting sued, healthcare providers especially.
        2. Prescription drug ads. Ever since restriction was taken off pharmaceutical ads in the 80's, healthcare costs have SKYROCKETED because people demand that their doctors prescribe the drugs, even if they don't really need them (worked in a clinic for 2 years, saw this happen DAILY with Viagra and other drugs.) Sop drug advertising and you will stop skyrocketing prices
        3. Doctors get drugs pushed on them from pharmaceuticals and therefore give out "samples" to people
        4. Uninsured people overburden the OR/ER's and the cost has to be absorbed by someone, but that someone SHOULD NOT BE THE US TAXPAYER!!!!

        What I think is absolutely retarded is that drugs sell for substantially less in Canada than they do here. Same drug, same packaging (add a little french dosage instructions), 2-3 times the cost.

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          2.5RS wrote:
          well the fact that right away he said that he would not apologize tells me that he meant what he said...... and then finnaly apologized on his website..... he must be a real small man if he does that.....

          He stated it publicly as well, I forget the talk show/news conference/whatever, but it was a public statement as well.

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            DaveH wrote:
            Come on now Chuck, this is as twisted as I've seen you post. LOL You are paying higher taxes because you are making more money than you ever have. Without GWB's tax cuts you would have been taxed more. Period.

            :icon_rr:

            I'm talking proportionally here, not total withheld. And no, this is not the most I have ever made annually Dave.

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              Its just the fact that he said he would not appologize right away that bugs me..... and im guessing other people from his party made him (my opinion).... just for the fact if he ever planned on running for president again.... That would not be a good mark on his record.....

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              > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
              > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
              > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
              > You are right Parker.

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                Because Bush has never said anything stupid that he never apologized for? How about "Terrorists never stop thinking of ways to harm our country, and neither do we" or "We've got a lot of rebuilding to do. First, we're going to save lives and stabilize the situation. And then we're going to help these communities rebuild. The good news is -- and it's hard for some to see it now -- that out of this chaos is going to come a fantastic Gulf Coast, like it was before. Out of the rubbles of Trent Lott's house -- he's lost his entire house -- there's going to be a fantastic house. And I'm looking forward to sitting on the porch." or "You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that."

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                  he took a direct shot at the troops that are risking there lives overseas...... maybe its just me..... but it really piss's me off.....

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                  > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                  > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                  > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                  > You are right Parker.

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                    K well this thread is really gay now. Good job.

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                      2.5RS wrote:
                      he took a direct shot at the troops that are risking there lives overseas...... maybe its just me..... but it really piss's me off.....

                      Again, he attempted to take a direct shot at the president...and it backfired. It was dumb either way, I'm not arguing that. here is the exact quote that he said "You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." the last line (allegedly) was to have said "If you don't, you get stuck with what we have here in Iraq". I'm not defending that he said what he said, its just that I don't think it was directly and intentionally aimed at our troops. I can see how others came to that conclusion, but I also think that Bush was serious when he said "Terrorists never stop thinking of ways to harm our country, and neither do we", mostly because I think he is correct...

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                        welp..... i really dont feel like arguing on this topic with you chuck, there is really nothing to argue...... but anyway

                        fuck Kerry 🙂

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                        > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                        > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                        > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                        > You are right Parker.

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                          I cannot imagine a world without some one messing up every once in a while, Kerry one time, Bush well about every time he opens his mouth....

                          http://politicalhumor.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2006/11/04/bush%2Dslips%2Dup%2Dsays%2Dthe%2D%5Fn%5F33270.html

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                            I think we should get rid of politics. Screw congress,senate,house whatever. Wasted of time and money.

                            Take that money and spend it on our troops. Planes and tanks go in and just hose everything down.

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                              gunmaster wrote:
                              I think we should get rid of politics. Screw congress,senate,house whatever. Wasted of time and money.

                              Take that money and spend it on our troops. Planes and tanks go in and just hose everything down.
                              I think thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard..

                              find some rope and a tree.

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                                gunmaster wrote:
                                I think we should get rid of politics. Screw congress,senate,house whatever. Wasted of time and money.

                                Take that money and spend it on our troops. Planes and tanks go in and just hose everything down.

                                Because anarchy has been a proven method of governing people and avoiding conflict, right?

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                                  tjamz wrote:
                                  Because anarchy has been a proven method of governing people and avoiding conflict, right?

                                  I think you could argue that what we have now is anarchy.

                                  :bom:

                                  dh

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                                    gunmaster wrote:
                                    I think we should get rid of politics. Screw congress,senate,house whatever. Wasted of time and money.

                                    Take that money and spend it on our troops. Planes and tanks go in and just hose everything down.
                                    In all seriousness, you post the dumbest shit the internet has ever seen.

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                                      yup, I concur

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                                        BumpinJCC wrote:
                                        I think thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard..

                                        find some rope and a tree.
                                        AHAHAHAHAHAHA..... that made my day

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                                        > BlueSRT0483;244555 wrote:
                                        > As proven by Parker... Not everything you read on the internet is true.
                                        > Trafik Jamz;260984 wrote:
                                        > You are right Parker.

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                                          DaveH wrote:
                                          I think you could argue that what we have now is anarchy.

                                          :bom:

                                          dh

                                          Good thing the Dems take over in January to straighten it all out then, right?

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