Performance Enthusiest Lack In ND
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Ok, so OI have not read this whole thread because I am just to lazy, so forgive me if I hit things that have already been said, but here it goes.
Gas is expensive, but thats not the real reason, just a factor. I also beleive the real reason has to do with the shops getting along. I will just say shop names because everyone already knows who they are anyways. I used to work at SLD, every time i go into work, I would get shit from people who were around the shop about having a tintmasters sticker on my car... i realize you guys are related in the market, but it just sucks that someone couldnt have a system and tint by tintmasters and a turbo kit by SLS. YOU ARE NOT DIRECT COMPETITION, GET OFF EACHOTHERS BALLS! I like hanging around SLS/SLD, and TM. I hang around tintmasters more because there is more people there, and even though I probably am, I dont feel like I am protruding on their space when I go in to talk. I have bought from both shops on more than one occasion and plan to keep doing so.edit: I am cool with both shops and would like to keep it that way. I am not hating on anyone in this post.
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inspector01 wrote:
Just some suggestions from my end......im not from fargo but i used to like going there to cruise and hang out, now not so much, but if there was somewhere to meet ppl i would come over more. The other thing is a suggestion for the shop owners/employees, I have gone into 2 of the shops in Fargo more than once each and was never helped or talked to except maybe "what do you need?" after 5-10 minutes and then not talked to about anything else. Sometimes i was just coming to hang out, and sometimes i was actually there to buy stuff. I go to school at UND and i actually prefer the ppl up there at least at the shops they are cool and pretty willing to talk to a newbie usually.A couple not specific examples would be i went in to look at buying a part, i was told they didn't have any in stock and that was it, no offer to do anything about it, so i ordered my $475 item off the internet. I have had this happen at least twice at different shops for stuff that i ended up ordering off the internet elsewhere.
So my suggestion would be teach employees to talk to ppl, it is the most basic part of sales. I really think that would get more ppl interested in buying parts and modding there cars, or at least keeping the buisness local.
I used to notice this alot too, but now Nick has someone to work the customer service at SLS, and I think this will improve the walk in business they do get 10 fold. Tintmasters has gotten better, but still there is a little bit of that going on. Working with as much volume and as many different employees that they do, its hard not to get that at any shop of their size. U could either have someone that doesnt know what the fuck they are talking about give you awesome customer service, or you could have someone that knows what they are talking about and try to work with them. You will never get a perfect salesman, because most people that know a lot about aftermarket car parts, or cars in general, dont have customer service ezperience.
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wannabe wrote:
I used to notice this alot too, but now Nick has someone to work the customer service at SLS, and I think this will improve the walk in business they do get 10 fold. Tintmasters has gotten better, but still there is a little bit of that going on. Working with as much volume and as many different employees that they do, its hard not to get that at any shop of their size. U could either have someone that doesnt know what the fuck they are talking about give you awesome customer service, or you could have someone that knows what they are talking about and try to work with them. You will never get a perfect salesman, because most people that know a lot about aftermarket car parts, or cars in general, dont have customer service ezperience.Well shit, then i should work for one of them, im not a car expert but i know quite a bit of stuff and i am pretty good with sales and keeping customers happy.
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I guess i cant say much about the scene dying because i havent been around the scene there at all this year considering I moved 8 hours away. Im sure that makes most of you happy that I am gone finally cuz. But I do agree that people should welcome others more. Yeah I dont have a 300+hp car or anything special. But that shouldnt mean I cant be welcomed by the ppl who do have such a car. I have felt in the past that I wasnt welcome at all. Every time i opened my mouth I got bashed every time. There was a time that a few of you talked to me. I wont say names cuz the few of you should know who you are. I really love it when ppl are nice to you in person but the rest of the time they are to good for you. Say if someone is alone they will talk you but when they are around the bigger guys(shop guys) its like you dont exsist cuz they have to have their reputation stay up.
If everyone could get along I think it would be better. The scene here pretty much sucks to. Auto x is a big thing here cuz we only have the 1/8th mile in sturgis and its to expesnive to drive to sioux falls to race.
Most of you say you are just giving me shit about everything all the time. But why is it that you have to do such a thing. Why cant you all just be honest and helpful instead of asses so much. I have never met 90% of you that talk shit to me on here. I have no reason to get treated the way I do,
Maybe that could change alsoMatt
92 Civic HB
JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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I sold my ricer car and there is nothing ricey about my civic. If there is what is it??
Matt
92 Civic HB
JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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I never said anything about being ricey at all, I just said the older guys will give you shit because you are the younger guy. It happened to me and I'm sure it happened to most people that are now in the "older" guy crowd. It just gave me motivation to prove them wrong and show I'm for real. Too mant people do it for just the attention and thats the wrong reason to do it.
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krzydrftr93 wrote:
I guess i cant say much about the scene dying because i havent been around the scene there at all this year considering I moved 8 hours away. Im sure that makes most of you happy that I am gone finally cuz. But I do agree that people should welcome others more. Yeah I dont have a 300+hp car or anything special. But that shouldnt mean I cant be welcomed by the ppl who do have such a car. I have felt in the past that I wasnt welcome at all. Every time i opened my mouth I got bashed every time. There was a time that a few of you talked to me. I wont say names cuz the few of you should know who you are. I really love it when ppl are nice to you in person but the rest of the time they are to good for you. Say if someone is alone they will talk you but when they are around the bigger guys(shop guys) its like you dont exsist cuz they have to have their reputation stay up.If everyone could get along I think it would be better. The scene here pretty much sucks to. Auto x is a big thing here cuz we only have the 1/8th mile in sturgis and its to expesnive to drive to sioux falls to race.
Most of you say you are just giving me shit about everything all the time. But why is it that you have to do such a thing. Why cant you all just be honest and helpful instead of asses so much. I have never met 90% of you that talk shit to me on here. I have no reason to get treated the way I do,
Maybe that could change also
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krzydrftr93 wrote:
I sold my ricer car and there is nothing ricey about my civic. If there is what is it??fartcan........................................:)
and on another note...
I'm not really sure why the scene has gone downhill. I never really saw what it was like back in the day, so I don't really have anything to compare it to. But if I had to say something about the scene going downhill it would have to be about the word trust and about shops. Anybody getting into the scene to begin with will most likely bring their vehicle some place to be worked on bc they dont know shit about how to work on the car (example, me 3 years ago). It's really disheartening when somebody can spend a lot of money someplace, only to have something taken from them. I'm surprised that I'm still in the scene after that. Shops need to be there to help out people, especially the n00bs. I'm not bringing this up to complain about it all over again or anything. I'm bringing it up because I think it's an important issue. If someone feels as though they got screwed over by a shop, the shop should then try to talk/work with the person. Not simply write them off and say screw you. Treat customers with respect and help them out and I'm sure they will return again for things. Sure, after awhile it won't be for labor or anything bc hopefully they'll be working on their own car (and I think that when people learn how to work on their own car, they will enjoy modding it to make it faster. Most people don't make their car fast and want body kits simply because they dont know what goes on under the hood. With a body kit, it's basically a piece of plasic that goes on the car, something that's viewed as very simple. Most people don't even know what engine is in their car. They don't even want to bother with it because it's viewed as too hard. That's the attitude that needs to change. People need to be shown that making a car decently quick isn't that hard or expensive to do.) But for parts or other random things the person will be glad to return their business because they know their money is going towards a good business and good people. Nobody wants to support something that they don't think is a good cause.
my .02
And for the record, I don't have a problem working with anybody from any shop. I simply brought this up because I think it's an important issue and nothing else. So don't take it as anything else.
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krzydrftr93 wrote:
I sold my ricer car and there is nothing ricey about my civic. If there is what is it??
Before u even bought that car you said u were gonna do a gsr swap right away... Just because u think your car is "JDM" doesnt mean your not a ricer. It's not about what your car looks like... what are your intentions, are you trying to do stuff you like or trying to impress people? -
First off I dont have a fartcan at all. Not even in my owner ship.
Second I would have a GSR but hmm...I think I kinda moved out of home and 600 miles away from fargo. If I had a lil better income I prolly would have something but almost all my money at this moment goes to bills. Not trying to make you guys feel sorry for me cuz it was my own choice to do what I did. And I think my intentions are good. Im not building a hatch to impress anyone obviously becasue what I do around here(well there) never would impress any of you even if I did have a car to keep up with the bigger boys.
So obviously im doing this for myself. I like cars and I want something that is semi fast and fun to drive. I would be happy with a 14 second 1/4
Matt
92 Civic HB
JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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krzydrftr93 wrote:
First off I dont have a fartcan at all. Not even in my owner ship.Second I would have a GSR but hmm...I think I kinda moved out of home and 600 miles away from fargo. If I had a lil better income I prolly would have something but almost all my money at this moment goes to bills. Not trying to make you guys feel sorry for me cuz it was my own choice to do what I did. And I think my intentions are good. Im not building a hatch to impress anyone obviously becasue what I do around here(well there) never would impress any of you even if I did have a car to keep up with the bigger boys.
So obviously im doing this for myself. I like cars and I want something that is semi fast and fun to drive. I would be happy with a 14 second 1/4
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serisouly all you do is bitch so whats the difference
Matt
92 Civic HB
JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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Honestly it hink people using the shop as a lack of support is a piss poor excuse but i guess i kinda saw that coming as well as all the comments of everyone not getting a long. But @ that same rate it should bring a long a lot of competetivness but its not. Personally i think we support every track even more then well enough being we show up to every track event and bring a few cars to put on a show when 75% of the time the other shops dont even show up. We travel to other track events all over the midwest, does anyone else even bother to leave the FM area?
Everyone needs to quit making excuses and blaming everyone else for their lack of participation.
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krzydrftr93 wrote:
serisouly all you do is bitch so whats the difference
you're the one who cries from rooftops talkin about how nobody likes you
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