Performance Enthusiest Lack In ND
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krzydrftr93 wrote:
I sold my ricer car and there is nothing ricey about my civic. If there is what is it??fartcan........................................:)
and on another note...
I'm not really sure why the scene has gone downhill. I never really saw what it was like back in the day, so I don't really have anything to compare it to. But if I had to say something about the scene going downhill it would have to be about the word trust and about shops. Anybody getting into the scene to begin with will most likely bring their vehicle some place to be worked on bc they dont know shit about how to work on the car (example, me 3 years ago). It's really disheartening when somebody can spend a lot of money someplace, only to have something taken from them. I'm surprised that I'm still in the scene after that. Shops need to be there to help out people, especially the n00bs. I'm not bringing this up to complain about it all over again or anything. I'm bringing it up because I think it's an important issue. If someone feels as though they got screwed over by a shop, the shop should then try to talk/work with the person. Not simply write them off and say screw you. Treat customers with respect and help them out and I'm sure they will return again for things. Sure, after awhile it won't be for labor or anything bc hopefully they'll be working on their own car (and I think that when people learn how to work on their own car, they will enjoy modding it to make it faster. Most people don't make their car fast and want body kits simply because they dont know what goes on under the hood. With a body kit, it's basically a piece of plasic that goes on the car, something that's viewed as very simple. Most people don't even know what engine is in their car. They don't even want to bother with it because it's viewed as too hard. That's the attitude that needs to change. People need to be shown that making a car decently quick isn't that hard or expensive to do.) But for parts or other random things the person will be glad to return their business because they know their money is going towards a good business and good people. Nobody wants to support something that they don't think is a good cause.
my .02
And for the record, I don't have a problem working with anybody from any shop. I simply brought this up because I think it's an important issue and nothing else. So don't take it as anything else.
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krzydrftr93 wrote:
I sold my ricer car and there is nothing ricey about my civic. If there is what is it??
Before u even bought that car you said u were gonna do a gsr swap right away... Just because u think your car is "JDM" doesnt mean your not a ricer. It's not about what your car looks like... what are your intentions, are you trying to do stuff you like or trying to impress people? -
First off I dont have a fartcan at all. Not even in my owner ship.
Second I would have a GSR but hmm...I think I kinda moved out of home and 600 miles away from fargo. If I had a lil better income I prolly would have something but almost all my money at this moment goes to bills. Not trying to make you guys feel sorry for me cuz it was my own choice to do what I did. And I think my intentions are good. Im not building a hatch to impress anyone obviously becasue what I do around here(well there) never would impress any of you even if I did have a car to keep up with the bigger boys.
So obviously im doing this for myself. I like cars and I want something that is semi fast and fun to drive. I would be happy with a 14 second 1/4
Matt
92 Civic HB
JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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krzydrftr93 wrote:
First off I dont have a fartcan at all. Not even in my owner ship.Second I would have a GSR but hmm...I think I kinda moved out of home and 600 miles away from fargo. If I had a lil better income I prolly would have something but almost all my money at this moment goes to bills. Not trying to make you guys feel sorry for me cuz it was my own choice to do what I did. And I think my intentions are good. Im not building a hatch to impress anyone obviously becasue what I do around here(well there) never would impress any of you even if I did have a car to keep up with the bigger boys.
So obviously im doing this for myself. I like cars and I want something that is semi fast and fun to drive. I would be happy with a 14 second 1/4
seriously, is all you do is talk about yourself? -
serisouly all you do is bitch so whats the difference
Matt
92 Civic HB
JDM d15b w/14b@8psi
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Honestly it hink people using the shop as a lack of support is a piss poor excuse but i guess i kinda saw that coming as well as all the comments of everyone not getting a long. But @ that same rate it should bring a long a lot of competetivness but its not. Personally i think we support every track even more then well enough being we show up to every track event and bring a few cars to put on a show when 75% of the time the other shops dont even show up. We travel to other track events all over the midwest, does anyone else even bother to leave the FM area?
Everyone needs to quit making excuses and blaming everyone else for their lack of participation.
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krzydrftr93 wrote:
serisouly all you do is bitch so whats the difference
you're the one who cries from rooftops talkin about how nobody likes you -
PSI2HI wrote:
Honestly it hink people using the shop as a lack of support is a piss poor excuse but i guess i kinda saw that coming as well as all the comments of everyone not getting a long. But @ that same rate it should bring a long a lot of competetivness but its not. Personally i think we support every track even more then well enough being we show up to every track event and bring a few cars to put on a show when 75% of the time the other shops dont even show up. We travel to other track events all over the midwest, does anyone else even bother to leave the FM area?Everyone needs to quit making excuses and blaming everyone else for their lack of participation.
I agree, the "shops" is a poor excuse, since a lot of people do a lot of their own work, or even already have a pretty decent car straight out of the factory that they can do some quick-easy mods themselves.
But the question you gotta ask yourself, how are you seeing the scene dead?
Are we talking about slower business at shops? Or are we talking about seeing less cars out n about on the streets? Or the idea that most local events tend to have lesser attendance? I would probably venture to guess that many small factors play into this, but the idea that the event seem to be only promoted on local forums and the feedback on the forums is quite small. I know last year there were a lot of places to stop/meet up in larger groups, for ex: Wal-Mart.. There was always a 9 o'clock meet-up thread at Wal-Mart on nice nights, weekdays/weekends. You see smaller groups cruising now, but nothing like how they were. I think the fact that there isn't any main roads, where a person can stop and chill instead of drive around all over (when gas is $3/gal) would help quite a bit. This way when people are talking about what they ran at iDrags, or whatever, it'll perk more to go, and build more on their car, etc. etc. I think.... Helps people realize people actually prefer/care about performance and strive to become faster. -
The first post of the thread is about the track attendance sucking a big donkey dick. There has been horrible attendence this year and we're not going to have a local track to use anymore if people don't start racing their cars. I don't think it has muck to do with shops getting along, domestics vs imports, or a lack of ricer meets/cruises.
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HandoEX wrote:
The first post of the thread is about the track attendance sucking a big donkey dick. There has been horrible attendence this year and we're not going to have a local track to use anymore if people don't start racing their cars. I don't think it has muck to do with shops getting along, domestics vs imports, or a lack of ricer meets/cruises.Sadly enough; I think in due time we won't have that track to use anymore if either the attendance was great or small.. I think we're limited due to the idea it's nearing city limits and also the idea that road construction on highway 9 may end up shutting it down, but that all could be rumors.. Not 100% certain... We'll see in time; may as well use it while we can before it's no more for just in case purposes..
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highway 9 is no where even close to the track
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STiSchucky wrote:
highway 9 is no where even close to the trackShit I meant 11, my bad!
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Watching a drag race is like watching paint dry. And in terms of participation, once you do a track drag race once there is really no point in racing again. Not all of us have time or money to do modifications each season. Autocrosses are more fun because there is an instrinsic driver value that drag races lack. Any joe with a car can autocross, and could potentially beat a better or newer car. In a drag race, sometimes a better car launching in third gear could smoke the car beside him.
And then there is the factor outside this point. People get jobs, have classes, develop relationships, whatever -- sometimes they don't have time for this stuff anymore. Or sometimes they just grow up or out of cars.
2005 Mercedes-Benz C240 4Matic
1993 Mazda Rx-7 Twin Turbo (sold)
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AcesHigh wrote:
People get jobs, have classes, develop relationships, whatever -- sometimes they don't have time for this stuff anymore. Or sometimes they just grow up or out of cars.And they are quickly replaced by a new enthusiastic group of kids just entering the scene.
With that being said, I know I struck a nerve when I stated what I see as a problem with the scene in this imediate area. I'm not just trying to isolate and bash the shops. But I do FIRMLY believe that the shops have alot more control/influence than they think. I do think that we (the enthusiast) need to and can contribte as well. What I was getting at was that it would make a real difference if they combined their efforts along with maybe to bring in some autocross events, stereo comps, car shows, dyno days, and general get togethers. Heck even get some car clubs involved as well. Stuff like that is what (I) believe will get the scene started in the right direction.
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Uhm Drag-Racing if you participate is fun I would think, you choose different cars to line up against; you don't have to do it for times if you know how to drive... (or think you do) but to maybe just try and see how well you can beat a car, or how well you can keep up, or even go up against a car that is close to yours in speed.
You don't go once, and go hmm.. guess thats what my car can do, I can't do any better. Or else people who play sports like Golf would go once, and be like welp, this is the best I can do unless I get better clubs (better clubs being like in reference to a mod on a car)
As for spectating, it's kind nice to see what people can run with their cars, when you see cars that should be hitting high 13s/14s and they are running 15s you chuckle, when you see a EVO or STi hitting low 12s, you wonder what he's got done.. I was at Cedar Falls and I think I had just about as much fun watching as running my car. but that may not go for everyone. -
Holy balls hell of a long thread already. As far as lack of participation from me this year, I blame myself. But see you guys shortly my parts are here.
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Where to start...... I'm just gonna tell it like I see it.
First off, in my opinion THE BIGGEST problem with this car scene here, is people and their fucking egos. This isn't true for everyone, but a pretty good majority of the people around here that are into cars and shit, are waaaaaaaay too big headed. I don't think I've ever seen as many arrogant assholes in my life, as I have when I moved here and have been dealing with it for the last 3 years. Everyone thinks they are so much better than everyone else because of what they have, or what they have done. Everyone thinks they are a fucking god, and they're not. So people need to get off their high horse and come back down to the real world.
Another one of the things that I think hurts the scene, is how parts always take sooooo long to get. I've had a few bad experiences trying to get parts and shit taking a long time, and that really makes me not even want to buy something. I don't want to go and spend my $5000 on something and not get it until a year later, that's just bad business. And yes I have had that exact scenario happen. So vendors need to get their shit together and make parts move faster.
If you local businesses want more local business (which is obviously the point of the thread), then you're probably going to have to spend some money on advertising locally. If people don't know you're there, or what you do, then you're never going to get their business.
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