Camaros sure are slow
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zbrown;305421 wrote:
there is a hell of a lot of difference between a boosted and NA setup, you know thatGranted, just saying it is possible. I have seen many other cars pick up 10+% NA. Conservative factory tunes, especially with variable cam timing leave a lot to be gained on many cars. I could care less what they make, i will never own a mustang, just adding information I have seen from others as to the capabilities of the car. No one knows exactly what it will do yet till its tested.
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inspector01;305417 wrote:
Welcome to modern cars.....100% stock EVO X gained 32% peak hp (even more in the midrange) with just reflashing.
If you take a boosted car and increase the boost, you should make more power. If you don't, there is something wrong. I'd like to see numbers where they aren't increasing the boost to create more power. That wasn't just a remap of the fuel curve.
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http://www.burgertuning.com/products.html
Yeah, I would have to agree. Factory tunes are ridiculously conservative.
But back to the topic- Mustangs suck dick. Big dick.
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inspector01;305417 wrote:
100% stock EVO X gained 32% peak hp (even more in the midrange) with just reflashing.Same with 2008+ STi's, they have been known to increase WHP by 55 and WTQ by 60HP on a fairly conservative reflash.
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Eurofan;305431 wrote:
http://www.burgertuning.com/products.htmlYeah, I would have to agree. Factory tunes are ridiculously conservative.
But back to the topic- Mustangs suck dick. Big dick.
But at least mustangs are better than BMWs.
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nonamekid;305429 wrote:
If you take a boosted car and increase the boost, you should make more power. If you don't, there is something wrong. I'd like to see numbers where they aren't increasing the boost to create more power. That wasn't just a remap of the fuel curve.He didn't increase boost, he straightened out the fueling and mivec, and got it to hold steady boost rather than dropping off. I never claimed any different, just showed an example of a car gaining 32-38%. It is common knowledge factory tunes are very conservative, especially on boosted cars, but even N/A can gain decent power with fueling, and especially variable cam timing adjustments.
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Cobra Rob;305392 wrote:
so that was the fag i saw at napa on his little bmx bike:icon_puke_r:yep.. wanna race?
blackcherryTSi;305401 wrote:
yeeeeeaaaahhhhhh...... exercising is DEFINENTLY for fags. everyone knows this! :icon_thumright:This... maybe if Cobra Rob would ride a bike he wouldn't be such a fat fuck...
Then, maybe he could get a chick (highly doubtful), and not have to rely on settling for dudes...
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bubba;305437 wrote:
yep.. wanna race?This... maybe if Cobra Rob would ride a bike he wouldn't be such a fat fuck...
Then, maybe he could get a chick (highly doubtful), and not have to rely on settling for dudes...
does exercising help your hair grow back?
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A little different when both drivers can actually drive. Close race tho...
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dont got a ride;305357 wrote:
we all "learned" that BMW = all time best track/drag/cruise/show off/dad has money/better then subaru/PSiedTSi is Eurofan's "BMW>all" trunk puppet car of all timejust sayin
What does "daddy having money" and "psiedTsi is eurofans" have to do with anything?? Just wondering what goes on in the thing you call a brain.
2003 Mitsubishi Evolution 8
2011 Ford F150 Ecoboost
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bubba;305437 wrote:
yep.. wanna race?This... maybe if Cobra Rob would ride a bike he wouldn't be such a fat fuck...
Then, maybe he could get a chick (highly doubtful), and not have to rely on settling for dudes...
I love when an inbred tries to make jokes... Makes me giggle..:icon_cheers:
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inspector01;305435 wrote:
He didn't increase boost, he straightened out the fueling and mivec, and got it to hold steady boost rather than dropping off. I never claimed any different, just showed an example of a car gaining 32-38%. It is common knowledge factory tunes are very conservative, especially on boosted cars, but even N/A can gain decent power with fueling, and especially variable cam timing adjustments.wait, so 32-38% at peak or 32-38% somewhere in the RPM range?
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RSmotors;1287587 wrote:
The boost was dropping off to 12 psi and now holds 16. Alot of improvement on this car with just tuning.inspector01;305435 wrote:
got it to hold steady boost rather than dropping off.nonamekid;305436 wrote:
Going from 12psi to 16psi is a boost increase.That would be the same peak boost, just getting it to hold boost rather than drop off like it does from the factory (AKA "Tuning")
dubbsy;305458 wrote:
wait, so 32-38% at peak or 32-38% somewhere in the RPM range?32% peak, but in the mid-rang he gained ~38%.
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Eurofan claims that Ford, and all the Domestic makes, have lost sight of what's important, or their "priorities" I think. So you see no correlation between drag racing and any other motorsport? You assume that they are not doing any testing to make it handle better. Every race has a start correct? Usually involving a sprint to the first corner down a straightaway. Ever watch any trans am racing, or SCCA? Mustangs do just fine there against some stiff German competition. The new mustang even has a brembo brake upgrade availabe from the factory. So what if it has a solid rear axle, if it smokes the bimmers and porsches on the track I guess it works, and if it aint broke don't fix it.
So back to his post that their priorities need to be reevaluated. Don't you think that Ford knows the mustangs demographic a little by now? I mean they have only been selling the things for like 46 years. Isn't it logical to assume that a lot of new mustangs will see some time at the drag strip and significantly less will see a road course? You also brought up the cheap plasticky interior, I agree with you here somewhat it isn't very appealing but have you sat in a 65 and then an 05. I have and its like a time capsule, there is so much of the old pony car character in the interior I could give a shit about how the dash or the door panel feels on the rare occasion that I touch it. Another thing is it keeps costs down, so maybe I can't afford a new one right now but I can damn sure afford myself an 07 or 08 GT. Yes that is because it has depreciated in value a lot, but what about a 07 or 08 3 series could I touch one for 15 to 20K? If so, the depreciation is a lot more significant there.
In summary you don't know shit but thanks for playing.
> Mitch Hedberg wrote:
> I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.ASE certified parts specialist.
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^ Case in point you're obviously not in the mustangs target group, i.e. people who don't suck.:D
> Mitch Hedberg wrote:
> I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.ASE certified parts specialist.
2004 Impala LS 3.8 -
capitlj;305500 wrote:
Eurofan claims that Ford, and all the Domestic makes, have lost sight of what's important, or their "priorities" I think. So you see no correlation between drag racing and any other motorsport? You assume that they are not doing any testing to make it handle better. Every race has a start correct? Usually involving a sprint to the first corner down a straightaway. Ever watch any trans am racing, or SCCA? Mustangs do just fine there against some stiff German competition. The new mustang even has a brembo brake upgrade availabe from the factory. So what if it has a solid rear axle, if it smokes the bimmers and porsches on the track I guess it works, and if it aint broke don't fix it.So back to his post that their priorities need to be reevaluated. Don't you think that Ford knows the mustangs demographic a little by now? I mean they have only been selling the things for like 46 years. Isn't it logical to assume that a lot of new mustangs will see some time at the drag strip and significantly less will see a road course? You also brought up the cheap plasticky interior, I agree with you here somewhat it isn't very appealing but have you sat in a 65 and then an 05. I have and its like a time capsule, there is so much of the old pony car character in the interior I could give a shit about how the dash or the door panel feels on the rare occasion that I touch it. Another thing is it keeps costs down, so maybe I can't afford a new one right now but I can damn sure afford myself an 07 or 08 GT. Yes that is because it has depreciated in value a lot, but what about a 07 or 08 3 series could I touch one for 15 to 20K? If so, the depreciation is a lot more significant there.
In summary you don't know shit but thanks for playing.
Maybe 20.. MAYBE. Nothing really worth while though.
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