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  • PSiedTSiP Offline
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    PSiedTSi
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    #31

    Still the same home owner causing problems. Shane@ Tintmasters tried to buy him off for the weekend races and he still wouldn't budge.

    At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

    92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
    95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
    1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
    Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

    > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
    > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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    • Top EndT Offline
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      Top End
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      #32

      It is for the most part the home owner causing the inability of the night races. More so when the CUP (condition use permit) was written to allow the dragstrip to be operated on that land, he as well as a few others i believe stressed there concern of races going longer then 1 hour before sunset. So when they wrote the CUP they included in there that the hours of allowed operation were 9am to 1 hour before sunset. So honestly even if the old guy had agreed to allowing night races or was bought off by someone to allow it, it would have violated the CUP and if anyone from the commissioners office had seen it or heard of it, it would have put the entire track in danger of being shut down and them loosing the CUP.

      I am working and getting this fixed but its going to take awhile to push all the zoning threw so actual night races most likely wont be a reality until the 2012 season.

      However, like above I am currently aloud to race until 1 hour before sunset, so the Friday night races will go until 9-10 (depending on how far out we can call "sunset").

      ***Top End Dragways
      ***http://www.topenddragways.com

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      • PSiedTSiP Offline
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        PSiedTSi
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        #33

        Top End;316722 wrote:
        It is for the most part the home owner causing the inability of the night races. More so when the CUP (condition use permit) was written to allow the dragstrip to be operated on that land, he as well as a few others i believe stressed there concern of races going longer then 1 hour before sunset. So when they wrote the CUP they included in there that the hours of allowed operation were 9am to 1 hour before sunset. So honestly even if the old guy had agreed to allowing night races or was bought off by someone to allow it, it would have violated the CUP and if anyone from the commissioners office had seen it or heard of it, it would have put the entire track in danger of being shut down and them loosing the CUP.

        I am working and getting this fixed but its going to take awhile to push all the zoning threw so actual night races most likely wont be a reality until the 2012 season.

        However, like above I am currently aloud to race until 1 hour before sunset, so the Friday night races will go until 9-10 (depending on how far out we can call "sunset").

        Right, and I could be wrong, but in my specific example, I think they had actually gotten permission from the other residents around and/or the Sheriff/County. It was awhile ago that they last tried to get around the issues. Either way, its unfortunate, but good luck changing everything!

        At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

        92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
        95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
        1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
        Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

        > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
        > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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        • 63vette6 Offline
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          63vette
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          #34

          Wrap it up by 9:00 and dont worry about it. Your track crew will be tired by then anyway.
          Whats the big deal about racing after dark? 🙂
          BIR closes at dusk on Wednesdays, opens at 4.

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          • PSiedTSiP Offline
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            PSiedTSi
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            #35

            63vette;316725 wrote:
            Wrap it up by 9:00 and dont worry about it. Your track crew will be tired by then anyway.
            Whats the big deal about racing after dark? 🙂

            A lot of tracks have had success doing race nights on Wed/Fri after work hours, and still being able to keep every possible "regular" race weekend. I'm pretty sure BIR does Wednesday night "street legals" or whatever they call them. Not to mention, the air is usually cooler at night, without all the heat/humidity at 3pm on summer afternoon. Lots of folks head to the lakes on the weekends, and I have personally had to make that choice a few times...the lake won every time. Plus, just racing under the lights just seems cooler, brings memories of racing on closed highways. Either way, we don't expect an old guy like yourself to understand 🙂

            At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

            92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
            95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
            1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
            Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

            > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
            > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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            • 63vette6 Offline
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              63vette
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              #36

              PSiedTSi;316726 wrote:
              A lot of tracks have had success doing race nights on Wed/Fri after work hours, and still being able to keep every possible "regular" race weekend. I'm pretty sure BIR does Wednesday night "street legals" or whatever they call them. Not to mention, the air is usually cooler at night, without all the heat/humidity at 3pm on summer afternoon. Lots of folks head to the lakes on the weekends, and I have personally had to make that choice a few times...the lake won every time. Plus, just racing under the lights just seems cooler, brings memories of racing on closed highways. Either way, we don't expect an old guy like yourself to understand 🙂

              Yeah call me crazy, I would rather race than go to the lake and prefer to be able to see the track when I am on it. :icon_jokercolor:
              BIR Wednesday 4- dusk.

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                Trafik Jamz
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                #37

                63vette;316729 wrote:
                Yeah call me crazy
                You are crazy 😉

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                • dubbsyD Offline
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                  #38

                  Jim's crazy has nothing to do with his choice between lakes and racing.

                  1995 Mustang
                  CAI, rimz, and springs.

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                  • Top EndT Offline
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                    Top End
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                    #39

                    More of the window licker crazy?

                    ***Top End Dragways
                    ***http://www.topenddragways.com

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                    • dubbsyD Offline
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                      Top End;316732 wrote:
                      More of the window licker crazy?

                      I'm thinking old crazy.

                      1995 Mustang
                      CAI, rimz, and springs.

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                      • 63vette6 Offline
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                        63vette
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                        #41

                        dubbsy;316733 wrote:
                        I'm thinking old crazy.

                        That would be senile... I am not there yet, but give me a few more years.

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                        • Top EndT Offline
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                          Top End
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                          #42

                          Same thing....?

                          ***Top End Dragways
                          ***http://www.topenddragways.com

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                          • GrrG Offline
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                            Grr
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                            #43

                            63vette;316734 wrote:
                            That would be senile... I am not there yet, but give me a few more BEERS.

                            you got that right

                            2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
                            2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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                            • 63vette6 Offline
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                              63vette
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                              #44

                              Grr;316736 wrote:
                              you got that right
                              "I am not there yet, but give me a few more BEERS."
                              Sounds good.. You buying?

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                              • GrrG Offline
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                                Grr
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                                #45

                                next time im up, yeah ill get a few!

                                2006 Trailblazer SS- my DD
                                2002 Camaro- built N/A LS3, Flt level 5 trans, 8.8 rear

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                                  aliengotpsi
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                                  #46

                                  So you gonna let us run low 10's without a cage and safty equip on street legal days?

                                  Kevin Smith
                                  Straightlinedetailing.com
                                  Why does everybody brush their teeth before going to the dentist but never wash their car before bring it to me??

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                                  • Top EndT Offline
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                                    Top End
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #47

                                    Nope

                                    If someone consistently runs faster then they are tech'd/equipped for or knowingly runs faster then they are set up for, they will be asked to stop running for the day. If it becomes a continuous problem they will not be aloud back on to the track until the vehicle meets the tech requirements for what I/we know the car can/has run.

                                    Now, am I going to be a tech Nazi and a dick about it? No. I will allow certain things under certain condition. An example (and sorry for using you Christian but the situation fits well) Christian has been shooting for his 9 second pass for awhile, and getting closer and closer. I would not at any point of him getting close to 9's stop him or worn him of going faster then his car allows, nor once he hit his 9 stop him from running that day. I would mention to him that if he wants to be consistent 9's he should update his car to allow, see above statement.

                                    Also if someone shows up, and appears to be doing the same as christian and finally hits that faster mark, he/she will be allowed to continue to race and run faster then they are allowed to, within reason. If someone is tech'd to run down to a 10.00 and is running 9.90-9.99 they are fine for that day, if they get down to say 9.75 or in that area they will be asked to stop running for the day.

                                    Now if you want to run fast but don't want to bring your vehicle up to what is required to run that fast, you can still run, just have to let off and not make a full run.

                                    I realize I've been rambling a bit but to sum it up, if you plan to run faster then your vehicle is allowed to, either get it up to tech or don't run that fast. I will allow it for that day (within reason) but if you plan to continue to run that fast get it up to snuff.

                                    This isn't just a power trip or me being a dick, if something happens I lose my insurance as well as other things and the track shuts down, plain and simple.

                                    ***Top End Dragways
                                    ***http://www.topenddragways.com

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                                      p-351
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                                      vita;316718 wrote:
                                      Heres a comment from mustang forum im on.

                                      Wow, I haven't been on here in a while! I almost forgot this site until I saw your post over there....

                                      I've only been out there a few times in the last few years. The girls are getting older now and I can take two of them with me relatively easy, so that should allow me more trips to the strip.

                                      I look forward to seeing what you can do with the place. Good luck with the new venture:icon_salut:

                                      My Supermotors page: http://www.supermotors.net/users/p-351
                                      My AMSOIL dealer site: http://www.redriversynthetics.net

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                                        tqisking
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                                        What about comp lic. ? will you accept a IHRA lic? .... I used to have a NHRA but rarely ever made it to Istate and the track in Minot is IHRA so it just made sense to me to have that...

                                        Thanks

                                        Chad

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                                        • Top EndT Offline
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                                          Top End
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                                          That depends, I will have to brush up on IHRA as well as other organizations licenses. I will defiantly honor any racing organization license, however your racing will be limited to that organizations limitations. For example (and not sure if this is right just an example) a NHRA license for ET/MX (ET Motorcycle) licenses you for 9.99 to 7.50, now if a IHRA license licenses you to run 9.99 to 9.00, you will be limited to running 9.00 or slower without any issues.

                                          ***Top End Dragways
                                          ***http://www.topenddragways.com

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