From the mouth of a cop regarding the exhaust tickets.
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StangerBanger96 wrote:
yes and noMuscle cars (usually) arent known for their loud raspy "riceish" exhaust noise, they generally have more low or growlish exhuast. I guess you can't really say muscle cars have nothing to do with it because they probably have complaints on them as well, but take an unbaised look at it and ask yourself which you notice more, a car that growls whenever you get on it and is otherwise within decent noise-range or one that sounds like a fart can no matter how modrate you drive it? Most of the idiots causing the bad rep are cheap asses who cant afford anything other than a civic or other cheap car and throw on a can to make themselves feel cool.
As its been stated time and time again though, those of us who spend decent money on our cars and dont drive like total jackasses are the ones who are screwed because of those idiots who think their completly stock civic/mustang/dsm/whatever are cool with fartcans/decals/systems and therefore have the right to drive like the rules dont apply to them.
What im saying is yes muscle cars should be held to the same standards but honestly i think more people are annoyed by the cans than they are by the growl.
i can think of more then a couple pickups/muscle cars that have a low "growl" that is sometimes a lot more annoying then some fart cans. also, i can think of plenty of pick ups/ muscle cars that weave traffic and rev there engines and act like retards also. this is straight up profiling that is all it is.
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here's an interesting thought, with all the money they'll be generating off of us with these tickets can we demand that they find all the stuff that gets stolen out of our cars too. since we will be generating alot of money for the PD. might be a card to play.
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wannabe wrote:
i say we start a ban-a-ricer section. If someone is cruising and sees anyone they know is on here, right a thread and admin should ban them for a while. maybe that will work?You don't like Freitag do you?
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i am impressed with the civilness of this thread.
as for muscle, trucks and harleys with their loud exhaust...
harleys are damn loud. trucks typically are not as low a growl as the muscle, but even muscle can be loud if they run em more then a couple hundred feet and start to get some revs in it.policing ourselves is a great idea, but even the best of us run into a situation or are having a bad day where a button got pushed and well you drive a little more aggressive than you should, or you turn the tunes up more than you should or in places that you should not be at hours you should not be...
Monty
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the fact of the matter is this... despite how exhausts sound, whether it is a mustang or a civic with a fart can... they should be policed the same. I don't care how deep of a growl a v6 mustang has... why should it be any different. And why do we need to hate on people with civics with a fart can? to some people that is all that they can afford. I don't think that we should hate on them because they have an interest in cars, and modifying them. there was a point in my life where all I could afford was a civic, with some light mods... i.e. a cf hood, gsr wheels, a "fart can" with 2 1/4 piping. Do we not realize as a whole that the type of car should not matter. it's the same discrimination as profiling other races, and if domestic people are going to be childish and say they have NO part in it. they're just cheating themselves, and the car crowd as a whole. if you are going to get involved you have a responsibility to fess up to errors, and to do things to help the scene progress.
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btleier wrote:
the fact of the matter is this... despite how exhausts sound, whether it is a mustang or a civic with a fart can... they should be policed the same. I don't care how deep of a growl a v6 mustang has... why should it be any different. And why do we need to hate on people with civics with a fart can? to some people that is all that they can afford. I don't think that we should hate on them because they have an interest in cars, and modifying them. there was a point in my life where all I could afford was a civic, with some light mods... i.e. a cf hood, gsr wheels, a "fart can" with 2 1/4 piping. Do we not realize as a whole that the type of car should not matter. it's the same discrimination as profiling other races, and if domestic people are going to be childish and say they have NO part in it. they're just cheating themselves, and the car crowd as a whole. if you are going to get involved you have a responsibility to fess up to errors, and to do things to help the scene progress.
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tjamz wrote:
You don't like Freitag do you? j/kthat hurts man:(
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wannabe wrote:
No problem with him, just his driving choices!and i pay for the way i drive, i know i do some stupid things, but in my eyes, i've toned down a bit from the way i drove a couple of years ago. and Joel i've seen the way you drive too.
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well thankfully my exhaust is still quiet enough that I shouldn't have an issue. (I'll be damned if I'm putting mufflers back on it)
if nothing else I'll go back to stock style turndowns and they'd never be able to tell who the loud car was if I was in a group of cars.
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I'll chime in to say that we are all part of this, however muscle will be less targeted. We all know that. I also agree that having a specific thread, or got to person(chuck?) would be great to have as a record keeper and do stats on it.
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pretty soon they will be measuring your ride height and ensuring your fenders cover the surface of your tires..... haha tufte.
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also, are they going to start pulling the people over that buy new cars that kinda have loud mufflers? there are some that come that way stock, they going to try and stop that too? or is it just going to be just us "speed racers" that get targeted and no one else? my friend's truck that he has is pretty loud, but it's also a turboed diesel it sounds kinda like a bus cause it's so loud, but are they going to start making engine mods illegal too after this?
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cavalier_babe wrote:
also, are they going to start pulling the people over that buy new cars that kinda have loud mufflers? there are some that come that way stock, they going to try and stop that too? or is it just going to be just us "speed racers" that get targeted and no one else? my friend's truck that he has is pretty loud, but it's also a turboed diesel it sounds kinda like a bus cause it's so loud, but are they going to start making engine mods illegal too after this?I like how you use the term "us" in your completely stock cavalier. You speed racer you.
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hmm... when I don't even own that cavalier, it's not mine, so there fore, I'm not going to drive it, I'm getting my own real car, and not going to say what it is.
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