GM files bankruptcy?
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Actually I don't hate GM i do like some of their products but they are mostly older...
cady's are GM and that part of GM has turned themselves around....Yeah it's been discussed about GM going chpt 11 since jan of this year... and it will probably be for the better it will make them open up their eyes on what they haven't been doing just like what happened when they were known as chrysler not diamlerchrysler back in the mid 80's
i've seen it happen with soooo many companies they get the name and become the biggest and get lazy another good example would be kenwood they used to be top dog then they started relying on everyone else to come up with new stuff and just copy the other companies...
my only beef i guess if you wanted to call it that is GM has gotten lazy and chpt 11 is just what they need to open their eyes just like it's what chrysler needed in the 80's
who know's maybe they'll come up with the next BIG thing like chrysler did with the mini van... even if it's a mini van it is still one of the best idea's in the past 20 years... u can't include SUV's cause they've came about I think it was in the 60's could be earlyer than that
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How many GM products do you see on the road compared to foreign manufacturers? The numbers have slipped in the last few years but there are still a lot more Cavaliers, Cobalts, and Malibus then there are Civics and Accords.
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TakeYourTopOff wrote:
any truck is better than a GM truck
only GM worth purchasing is a vet but why would you spend 66G on that when you can get sooo much more performace for an additional 14G in the viper.
Which stock Vipers have gone 11.6? I have video of one. The mags have tested them at 11.7. IMHO, Vipers aint got shit on C6 Z06s. -
2.5RS wrote:
Dodge>Chevy.... and i hate dodge.....woohoo
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TakeYourTopOff wrote:
Segment 2:
Topic: February sales figures are out - what the heck happened to GM and Honda?
it's not just american companies that fell hard honda and GM both copy designs of other companies and make things dull and without any style that's why they are fallingtoyota is rocking the industry
diamlerchrysler is doing good ford is keeping pace with the industry and I believe both kia and hyundai are the 2 fastest market gainers of everyonein total sales GM is still #1 but loosing ground toyota is #2 but gaining, ford and diamler chrysler were somewere before honda, honda was like about #7
Get your facts straight GM isn't even close to being #1 anymore. Honda, Toyota, and Hyundai are on top....GM, Ford, Daimler Chrysler, and Kia are down the line..
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Although GM sure doesn't have an A+ management team, many of their products are pretty good. The 4th gen F-body is a pretty good platform. Though I would rather have seen an updated F-body, the new LS2 powered GTO is still impressive as well. The big question is if the management team has managed to lose so much money that they can't afford the R&D to compete with Toyota (who should really reintroduce the Supra). But if there are no more domestic cars, who will you guys have to look down on?
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Can anyone guess which car has the least amount of problems from factory and which ones have the most?
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2wheeler wrote:
Which stock Vipers have gone 11.6? I have video of one. The mags have tested them at 11.7. IMHO, Vipers aint got shit on C6 Z06s.Sorry, Bow-Tie boosters, Chevy's Corvette sat this one out. Among the world's best-performance values, even the 405-horsepower Z06 lacks the beans to tee up on this turf.
the above 2nd paragraph on motor trends comparo of the ford gt to the viper
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0401_vipandgt/index.html
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02AccordEXV6 wrote:
Get your facts straight GM isn't even close to being #1 anymore. Honda, Toyota, and Hyundai are on top....GM, Ford, Daimler Chrysler, and Kia are down the line..I was trying to find the most current #'s but feb. of 05 was teh most current #'s i found if you can find world wide sales #'s post the link until then I guess well have to go by autoline detroits site on the feb sales #'s which chevy was still #1 but like they said they were loosing ground and toyota is coming close to over taking them honda and hyundai and kia all 3 surprised me i figured honda would have been higher than they were (something like 6th or 7th spot) and kia and hyundai were both way higher than i could have imagined... those were past 12 month sales period from feb 04 to feb 05 not all time sales #'s honda has slipped on new car market share sence the 90's according to reports i've read
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that's all i'm going to say on the subject and until i see some hard #'s it's all i'm saying on it also
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TakeYourTopOff wrote:
Sorry, Bow-Tie boosters, Chevy's Corvette sat this one out. Among the world's best-performance values, even the 405-horsepower Z06 lacks the beans to tee up on this turf.the above 2nd paragraph on motor trends comparo of the ford gt to the viper
http://motortrend.com/roadtests/coupe/112_0401_vipandgt/index.html
I was referring to the C6 vette, which has 505hp.
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91nbtsi wrote:
I was referring to the C6 vette, which has 505hp."Z06 lacks the beans to tee up"
i'm just quoting the article tis all i'm doing
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91nbtsi wrote:
I was referring to the C6 vette, which has 505hp.Just read Motor Trend this morning, 505hp was falsely advertised. "Rumor is it makes up to 550 horses (pg.22)"
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GM's design team isn't doing so good these days
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ryana58054 wrote:
GM's design team isn't doing so good these daysNot at all. According to Motor Trend again, Toyota is set to launch a truck in 2007 that would out performs Dodge, GMC, and Ford.
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