Is GOD real?
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DaveH;198026 wrote:
Here is an interesting question for the people who don't believe. What do you think happens when you die? Obviously no right or wrong answer for you, I'm just curious what you think.I'll be buried and fertilize new growth. To be honest, I don't want to go to a cemetery. Don't stick me in a sealed box inside a sealed box so that I can last for eternity. Grind me up and feed me to a wheat field.
Like I said, I live my life for my life not my death - the hear and now. When I die and if there is a god I end up going to hell, then hey, joke's on me. I'd like to think I've been more than a decent person in my life (even with no religious beliefs, I still have morals.. standards.. knowledge of what's right and wrong) so if I stand at those infamous pearly gates I'll get through but I'm sure not expecting that to happen.
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Lemme share this with all of you. I work with a guy, who is the most religious person I know. He is a very down to Earth type of guy, who is easy to get along with.
I asked him what religion he considers himself. He thought for a moment, and answered, "I'm a Bible believing Christian." Basically, what the Bible says, goes. Let me tell you, he lives up to this as well. He lives his live ABSOLUTELY by the rules set forth in the Bible.
He is who I turn to if I ever have a religious question, because he actually knows what he is talking about. He can quote scripture for hours. I have a ton of respect for this man because HE ACTUALLY WALKS THE WALK. He studies the Bible.
He doesn't "half-ass" his religion like 99% of the people responding to this thread. Where they pick and choose what parts they want to follow. That, in my book, is BS. Follow the rules, or don't tell me you're "religious". Seems like people just want to follow the "easy" parts of the religion, and then go to "heaven".
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I like how nothing every gets accomplished in these threads bc nobody is gonna change their mind...
BTW...personally, I'm not a fan of a lot of the things the Catholic church stands for...It's almost as if you have to pay to be a member...Basically, I dislike the Catholic church for all of the reasons Luther placed his thesis on the doors of the church...the Catholic church used to be highly corrupt and IMO is still in recovery mode. There's a difference between traditional and weird, and they walk on the line of it...This is just from personal experience btw...Also, purgatory sounds like a bunch of bs that the Catholic church invented during the inquisition in order to sell indulgences...I know some Catholics don't believe in it, but some still do.
But ummmm...yup i know that wont change ppls minds but w/e...ya thats right i said it...what up now biaches?
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HandoEX;198047 wrote:
So from now on I should turn to 2wheeler to get approval to call myself a Christian? Do I have to live up to this co-workers standards in order to be spiritual?
Of course not. You can just be another "99%'er". I can believe I'm not white and "call" myself light-skinned black all I want.So, you're Christian, and I'm black.
BTW.....your "God" will know whether you've followed the rules or not, and won't care what you "think" you are. "Heaven" is only going to allow the true followers.
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2wheeler;198056 wrote:
BTW.....your "God" will know whether you've followed the rules or not, and won't care what you "think" you are. "Heaven" is only going to allow the true followers.
I don't think Jesus ever taught that following "rules" would lead to him. -
2wheeler;198087 wrote:
Then what leads to him? What is the minimum?Jesus taught, I am the way the truth and the life, noone comes to the father except threw me. The only way anyone can go to heaven is buy believing that he is God, accepting him as their personal savior, addmitting they are a sinner, that they need to change, asking for forgiveness and letting him lead their life. Following the ten commandments, and all the "rules" should just come natural because if they have truely accepted him they should want to make him happy. You could follow all the 10 commandments, and all the rules, and be a "good person" but if you are doing it for the wrong reasons, and have not accepted Jesus as your personal savior, don't believe that he is God, and havn't commited your life to him you'll go to hell according to the bible.
There is no minimum, we all are sinners, we all make mistakes, that's why the Bible teaches that Jesus came to die as a sacrifice for the sins of the world, since there is no sacrifice that we could give great enough for all our sins. This is why we can come and ask forgivness. Once someone has become a christian will they be perfect? NO!! Their lives and attitudes should have changed in such a way though that they want to please God and serve him with their lives. Everyone will go astray and still make mistakes, which is why we are able to ask for forgiveness. I know I am by no means perfect...
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kylush;198121 wrote:
Jesus taught, I am the way the truth and the life, noone comes to the father except threw me. The only way anyone can go to heaven is buy believing that he is God, accepting him as their personal savior, addmitting they are a sinner, that they need to change, asking for forgiveness and letting him lead their life. Following the ten commandments, and all the "rules" should just come natural because if they have truely accepted him they should want to make him happy. You could follow all the 10 commandments, and all the rules, and be a "good person" but if you are doing it for the wrong reasons, and have not accepted Jesus as your personal savior, don't believe that he is God, and havn't commited your life to him you'll go to hell according to the bible.There is no minimum, we all are sinners, we all make mistakes, that's why the Bible teaches that Jesus came to die as a sacrifice for the sins of the world, since there is no sacrifice that we could give great enough for all our sins. This is why we can come and ask forgivness. Once someone has become a christian will they be perfect? NO!! Their lives and attitudes should have changed in such a way though that they want to please God and serve him with their lives. Everyone will go astray and still make mistakes, which is why we are able to ask for forgiveness. I know I am by no means perfect...
He hit the nail on the head.
It's called GRACE.
God giving us a gift we don't deserve.
WE can do nothing to "earn" our way to heaven.
"it is by GRACE you have been saved through faith, lest any man shall boast".
It's all quite simple really.
Einstein believed that there was a God even!
How smart are you?
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Ok...I'm in so here we go. I'm not trying to be a prick, I just want honest straight up answers from the believers in this thread.
Is it possible that the devout Catholic, Adolph Hitler, could be in heaven if he had truly repented prior to his death?
Why was little or no faith needed to believe in god during Old Testament times (god appeared to humans regularly) yet today christians have to rely on 100% faith for their belief?
How would you prove that your god exists - without using arguments that someone from another religion would use to prove their god exists, and without reference to the Bible?
Why is your god the only valid god?
If Christ did come back to earth, what would be your minimum requirement for proof of his authenticity?
Why does most of the Old Testament teach that there is no afterlife (see
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6, for example), while later Old Testament writings and the
New Testament do?Why wasn't there a 40-year period in Egypt's history when the whole land was
devoid of people and animals, as prophesied by Ezekiel (Ezekiel 29:11-12)?Why is the Old Testament and most of the New Testament addressed only to
free men, and not to women or slaves? Does God deal only with free males?I have many more but until later I will leave everyone with this...
If I'm wrong, you can sing the "I told you so" song for eternity as I writhe in the fires of Hell. If I'm right, when we die we both cease to exist and I never get to sing the "I told you so" song. Not even once. That sucks.
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