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  • StangerBanger96S Offline
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    capitlj;252308 wrote:
    You do that's what the law says. Turning cars have to yield to cars that are not turning and left turning cars yield to right turning ones. It might not make much sense but going off the, "I was here first rule," is a bad idea.

    It is NOT what the law says. The person who arrives first has the right-of-way is what the law says...That is like saying at a 4 way stop if I arrive first and am turning and then someone else arrives later and is going straight they have the right of way...that is wrong...first there first to leave.

    From MN Laws:

    169.20 RIGHT-OF-WAY.
    Subdivision 1.Approaching intersection.

    (a) When two vehicles enter an uncontrolled intersection from different highways at approximately the same time, the driver of the vehicle on the left shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on the right.

    (b) When two vehicles enter an intersection controlled by stop signs or by blinking red traffic signals requiring drivers or vehicles from any direction to stop before proceeding, the driver of the vehicle on the left shall yield the right-of-way to the vehicle on the right.

    (c) At an uncontrolled approach to a T-shaped intersection, the driver required to turn shall yield to the cross traffic.

    (d) The driver of any vehicle traveling at an unlawful speed shall forfeit any right-of-way which the driver might otherwise have hereunder.

    (e) The foregoing rules are modified as hereinafter stated in this section.
    Subd. 2.Left turn.

    The driver of a vehicle intending to turn to the left within an intersection or into an alley, private road, or driveway shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle approaching from the opposite direction which is within the intersection or so close thereto as to constitute an immediate hazard.

    This doesn't really make it overly clear because there is no mention of a control device (IE stopsign).

    Generally at a stopsign left yields to right and last yields to first which is closer to the situation I'm mentioning. If it is uncontrolled or a green stoplight situation, left yields to straight.

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    • StangerBanger96S Offline
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      #11

      I emailed Moorhead PD to see what their answer is, I'll also call my sister and see what her answer is since that would cover ND law.

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        http://www.dot.nd.gov/divisions/dlts/docs/rulesroad.pdf

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          I'm sorry I forgot to add something, when you arrive at the same time or close to the same time my statement is correct my apologies. If you arrive before then yes you have the right of way, but what if both of you have to wait 20 seconds for traffic to clear?

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          • StangerBanger96S Offline
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            capitlj;252322 wrote:
            I'm sorry I forgot to add something, when you arrive at the same time or close to the same time my statement is correct my apologies. If you arrive before then yes you have the right of way, but what if both of you have to wait 20 seconds for traffic to clear?

            It does not matter how long you have to wait...whoever was there first gets to go first. You could arrive first, they could arrive 5 seconds later, and you both could wait for 5 years at that light. When you finally have the opening, YOU have the right of way because you were there first.

            I emailed Moorhead PD and they confirmed my belief.

            Hello,

            You would be right to expect that you would have the right of way to
            make the left turn north bound on hwy 52 if you came to a complete stop
            prior to the 2nd vehicle and you were also clear to proceed onto hwy 52.
            The problem is usually the second car does not believe you are able to
            make the left turn because of south bound traffic on 52 so they proceed
            with their right turn in front of you.
            You can read the law regarding
            right of way below. Hope this helps if not you can email me back or
            call.

            Exactly what the officer said, the problem is the idiot on the other side THINKS, incorrectly, that they have the right of way.

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            • RexwagonR Offline
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              we have a winner. Dont you wish you had the bonneville again. so you could just go when they go. lol

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                Yeah I definitely wish I had some sort of beater like that again just so I didn't have to worry about stopping. I still want to put up a sign or somehow make a mass statement to the effect of "IF YOU STOP FIRST YOU GET TO GO FIRST, IF YOU DIDN'T STOP FIRST WAIT YOUR F'N TURN".

                The intersection in question needs a stoplight in my opinion. Instead the geniuses at the city felt that a stoplight at the new Menards exit/entrance was more important...that stoplight is a joke.

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                  I'm sure with an email like you just sent, they will prolly watch that area more carefully lol

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                    That would be fine by me lol, I'm sick of all the idiots that come from the industrial park that think they have the right of way.

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                      its icy. whoever has a 4x4 goes first.

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                        That should explain it, if you are at a 4 way stop first to stop is first to go, otherwise left turn yields to oncoming traffic.

                        *edit, sorry that pic is large.

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