Grand Forks Part II
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slow90gsx;269779 wrote:
By the sounds of it walaker dosent like the Hesko have you guys heard anything good or bad?we like the hescos because of the versitility and time it takes to get them done.
now the price is a different story. i think the city was paying around 500 dollars for 15ft sections. the hescos are great but they have their downsides.
Wheres Joel in all this? maybe he can tell us what the river will crest at?
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Moorhead displays its utter stupidty again by startin to build a dike on 8th st.
God who are the morons getting overpaid to think this childish shit up. Put the stupid dike on 4th st, then leave 1 lane open on it cause its a 1way anyways.
Fuckin idiots.
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Plus the hescos leak kinda. if you put them on the street they are way better then putting them on the grass or mud. they weigh a ton and with the saturated ground the end up leaking. they did use them in hurricane katrina and according to the president of the company, which was here in town last week, they say that the hesco lasted there and never broke. it was their permanant dikes.
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DelSlow;269780 wrote:
I don't know why he wouldn't? They are cheap and crazy fast to fill compared to other methods.Ummmm NO. They are spendy and they leak at the bottoms. There are some areas in Iowa that were/are in the process of buying them for flood control but may have cancelled their order because of the statements from certain people in our area.
I heard in our area that the city originally purchased $450,000 worth of them in the beginning. Since then I heard they have 7 miles in place. The cost per lineal foot is over $35, that puts the purchase price well over $1,000,000.00
Like someone told me they are good for stopping bullits, not water. The only good thing about them is they do go up quickly.
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Rexwagon;269786 wrote:
Plus the hescos leak kinda. if you put them on the street they are way better then putting them on the grass or mud. they weigh a ton and with the saturated ground the end up leaking. they did use them in hurricane katrina and according to the president of the company, which was here in town last week, they say that the hesco lasted there and never broke. it was their permanant dikes.The ones I installed sealed up better on the grass/dirt vs. concrete. The reps. were on sight when we put them up. Ours were on the first load to show up in Fargo. They had nothing better to do so they came out just to see that they were being installed properly.
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I c. so I looking at the probability graph of water heights from the NWS, and its not looking good.
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ahps2/weekly.php?wfo=fgf&gage=fgon8&view=1,1,1,1,1,1&toggles=10,7,8,2,9,15,6it looks like a 90% chance of going 41ft. wtf
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DelSlow;269793 wrote:
You do know that they just don't up up Hesco's and that's it right? They pack clay around them...I think for how fast they go up, the amount of protection they give, and how ***relatively ***cheap they are; they are pretty damn decent.
You dumbfuck they packed clay because they leaked. QUIT posting in this thread when you absolutly have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
Sorry about the rant to all else.............
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Because they leaked? I have Hesco's by my house and they have had clay on them since day 1. Why don't we ask Rex what they do with the barriers right away, as I think he has more experience and knows more about them than both of us. I do love how everyone is so quick to throw out personal attack for stating options. Cry me a fucking river. Sorry I forgot, if you loose a house to a flood you instantly know everything there is to know about any/all barriers.
Jesus Christ, grow up.
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Rexwagon;269795 wrote:
I c. so I looking at the probability graph of water heights from the NWS, and its not looking good.
http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ahps2/weekly.php?wfo=fgf&gage=fgon8&view=1,1,1,1,1,1&toggles=10,7,8,2,9,15,6it looks like a 90% chance of going 41ft. wtf
do you honestly believe that? Its all off of historical data. They wont have a clear prognostication until they see what happens this weekend when theres a signficant warm up and the majority of snow melts.Either way I would put 0 stock into the NWS. They botched the 41-42 potentially 43 prediction in just 12 hours, what gives you confidence theyll be right, 2 and a half weeks away?
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DelSlow;269797 wrote:
Because they leaked? I have Hesco's by my house and they have had clay on them since day 1. Why don't we ask Rex what they do with the barriers right away, as I think he has more experience and knows more about them than both of us. I do love how everyone is so quick to throw out personal attack for stating options. Cry me a fucking river. Sorry I forgot, if you loose a house to a flood you instantly know everything there is to know about any/all barriers.Jesus Christ, grow up.
Well if you want I can scan the literature on how to install them and post them up if you want. I have put up many dikes in the area. Not just for the same house either. Not sure where I stated I lost a house due to dike failure. I have installed numerous forms of diking. A clay barrier is the best, no doubt. We went with the Hesco do to time limitations. Was it the best option at the time you bet. Would I use them again if time wasn't a hinderance, no way.
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STiSchucky;269799 wrote:
do you honestly believe that? Its all off of historical data. They wont have a clear prognostication until they see what happens this weekend when theres a signficant warm up and the majority of snow melts.Either way I would put 0 stock into the NWS. They botched the 41-42 potentially 43 prediction in just 12 hours, what gives you confidence theyll be right, 2 and a half weeks away?
i dont necassarily believe them. but they know more about predictions than I do. its better to be prepared for more then be left without protection because you didnt think it was gonna happen. The city barely made it by this last time.
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Then I don't really understand why you blew up on me...
"I don't know why he wouldn't? They are cheap and crazy fast to fill compared to other methods."
"I think for how fast they go up, the amount of protection they give, and how relatively cheap they are; they are pretty damn decent."
Where did I say anything about them being the absolute best means of protection? I didn't. I was saying that A) They go up very fast B) With labor time/crew they are actually a cheap means of protection, but yet you blow up and start throwing out the insults that I "QUIT posting in this thread when you absolutely have no fucking clue what you are talking about." If that be the case then please, show me something saying they are slow to be put up and are extremely expensive for what they are and save.
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