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So what you think of kanye?

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    Trafik Jamz
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    Anyway, my point in that was that it has nothing to do with race.

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      And, I think you are wrong. The bus fight was absolutely racial -- that was the group delineator. They chose him not because he was him, but because he wasn't one of them.

      A different bus with a different composition would have chosen differently. Racial boundaries are one of the ways people cleave into "us and them", but just because there are other ways doesn't mean we say this wasn't a race-based act.

      Furthermore, just because there were a few other white kids on the bus that didn't get attacked doesn't disprove the suggestion, nor does the fact that not all black kids were involved, nor does the fact that eventually a black kid showed up to do something about the fighting.

      IIRC, there have been reports of black KKK members. Does that make the KKK a non-racist organization? 🙂

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        I can concede that point I guess as it is a lot easier to be one of "us" rather than "them" in that type of situation.

        My (original) point is that there is no reason to call someone a nigger though or to be worried just because you are around a bunch of them.

        Link, if it was a white kid that had fucked with you in hockey or that was acting all "gangsta-like" in school, would you have called him something racially charged (cracker, honkey, etc...) or would have you just called him a fucking cheater/punk ass? I'm guessing it wouldn't have been racial then.

        If you wouldn't have called a white dude that, why go there with a black guy? Or mexican or asian or indian?

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          When discussing this subject the MAIN difference between people like Thrash and Chuck vs guys like bubba and rexwagon are that the first 2 guys are educated enough and "get it" and those other guys just flat out don't. How are you gonna sit there and act like black people are always doing the wrong thing? I know that there are PLENTY of reports of whites being useless tools of society.... i.e. When that group of redneck pieces of shit chained that black guy to their bumper and drove down the road just cause he was black. OR when the group of hillbillie sisterfuckers handcuffed that guy to a fence and let him die just cause he was gay... Now as for the Hub, Joe and I use to go their every weekend and sometimes twice a week and NEVER had any problems with black people. And just so you know if I were to walk up and see some black guys beating either of you 2 I would gladly join them because IMO the less people like you in this world the better 🙂

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            Kossick;288488 wrote:
            When discussing this subject the MAIN difference between people like Thrash and Chuck vs guys like bubba and rexwagon are that the first 2 guys are educated enough and "get it" and those other guys just flat out don't. How are you gonna sit there and act like black people are always doing the wrong thing? I know that there are PLENTY of reports of whites being useless tools of society.... i.e. When that group of redneck pieces of shit chained that black guy to their bumper and drove down the road just cause he was black. OR when the group of hillbillie sisterfuckers handcuffed that guy to a fence and let him die just cause he was gay... Now as for the Hub, Joe and I use to go their every weekend and sometimes twice a week and NEVER had any problems with black people. And just so you know if I were to walk up and see some black guys beating either of you 2 I would gladly join them because IMO the less people like you in this world the better 🙂

            Omg hillbilly sisterfuckers you racist! I dont think you get it, these people dont hate black people. quit saying that. They hate niggers. This thread is about a nigger.

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              Omg hillbilly sisterfuckers you racist! I dont think you get it, these people dont hate black people. quit saying that. They hate niggers. This thread is about a nigger.

              There is <u>NO</u> difference between the two. The N word is a slanderous term for African Americans. ALL African Americans. Not just a certain population of them. <u>Look up the fucking history of the word</u>. Anyone who thinks differently is just trying to make an excuse to use the word, is completely ignorant and BEYOND retarded, or trying to mask or deny their true racist feelings.

              Here is a quote from the African American Registry:

              The history of the word nigger is often traced to the Latin word niger, meaning Black. This word became the noun, Negro (Black person) in English, and simply the color Black in Spanish and Portuguese. In early modern French, niger became negre and, later, negress (Black woman) was unmistakably a part of language history. One can compare to negre the derogatory nigger and earlier English substitutes such as negar, neegar, neger, and niggor that developed into its lexico-semantic true version in English. It is probable that nigger is a phonetic spelling of the White Southern mispronunciation of Negro.

              No matter what its origins, by the early 1800s, it was firmly established as a derogative name. In the 21st century, it remains a principal term of White racism, regardless of who is using it...

              ...The word, nigger, carries with it much of the hatred and disgust directed toward Black Africans and African Americans. Historically, nigger defined, limited, made fun of, and ridiculed all Blacks. It was a term of exclusion, a verbal reason for discrimination. Whether used as a noun, verb, or adjective, it strengthened the stereotype of the lazy, stupid, dirty, worthless nobody. <u>No other American surname carries as much purposeful cruelty.</u>

              Anyone who thinks that the N word is only derogatory to a certain segment of the Black population deserves a baseball bat to the balls. No procreation for you. Fuck.

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                Why dont you just go move to the hood with your nig friends if you love them so much.

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                  amicheze;288494 wrote:
                  There is <u>NO</u> difference between the two. The N word is a slanderous term for African Americans. ALL African Americans. Not just a certain population of them. <u>Look up the fucking history of the word</u>. Anyone who thinks differently is just trying to make an excuse to use the word, is completely ignorant and BEYOND retarded, or trying to mask or deny their true racist feelings.

                  Here is a quote from the African American Registry:

                  Anyone who thinks that the N word is only derogatory to a certain segment of the Black population deserves a baseball bat to the balls. No procreation for you. Fuck.

                  The boondocks begs to differ.

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                    i don't use the word.... just for them main reason i am white..... i love being white....

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                        amicheze;288494 wrote:
                        There is <u>NO</u> difference between the two. The N word is a slanderous term for African Americans. ALL African Americans. Not just a certain population of them. <u>Look up the fucking history of the word</u>. Anyone who thinks differently is just trying to make an excuse to use the word, is completely ignorant and BEYOND retarded, or trying to mask or deny their true racist feelings.

                        Here is a quote from the African American Registry:

                        Anyone who thinks that the N word is only derogatory to a certain segment of the Black population deserves a baseball bat to the balls. No procreation for you. Fuck.

                        oh my fucking god, thank you. This guy gets it. +1

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                          amicheze;288494 wrote:
                          There is <u>NO</u> difference between the two. The N word is a slanderous term for African Americans. ALL African Americans. Not just a certain population of them. <u>Look up the fucking history of the word</u>. Anyone who thinks differently is just trying to make an excuse to use the word, is completely ignorant and BEYOND retarded, or trying to mask or deny their true racist feelings.

                          Here is a quote from the African American Registry:

                          Anyone who thinks that the N word is only derogatory to a certain segment of the Black population deserves a baseball bat to the balls. No procreation for you. Fuck.

                          I've never agreed with you more.

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                            Bp-08;288497 wrote:
                            Why dont you just go move to the hood with your nig friends if you love them so much.

                            First of all fuck you you racist piece of shit.

                            Second, I'd much rather live around my black friends than you at least they are respectful of others.

                            Third, next time my friends are around, I challenge you to say that exact same comment to them.

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                              Trafik Jamz;288480 wrote:
                              Link, if it was a white kid that had fucked with you in hockey or that was acting all "gangsta-like" in school, would you have called him something racially charged (cracker, honkey, etc...) or would have you just called him a fucking cheater/punk ass? I'm guessing it wouldn't have been racial then.

                              If you wouldn't have called a white dude that, why go there with a black guy? Or mexican or asian or indian?

                              If it were a white dude, I probably would have just called him a little bitch or something along those lines.

                              The reason I don't have a problem calling the "ganster" blacks a nigger, is for 1 reason. If they can call themselves niggers, it must not be all the bad eh? So because a white person calls them a nigger, it's a big shit fit. Ya, ya, we can go back to the days of cotton picking and all that racial bullshit, but times have changed. If they hate the word so much, stop calling each other niggers.

                              Do you see white people getting worked up when someone calls them a cracker? I doubt it. We laugh.

                              Oh, and another reason I don't mind calling a black a nigger, is because it is by far the easiest way to get under a black's skin.

                              Hell, I work out with a black guy every morning, 5am - 6:30am, and boy do we have some great conversations. I have several other black friends.

                              The blacks I have no problem calling out are the low life bitches who think its cool to "pack a 9" and sell drugs or the ones who just like to cause drama. If they want to cause drama, they better be able to take shit in return.

                              Oh, and that definition of the word "nigger" is from when? When slavery was a big thing? Times have changed and the definition has evolved. Did you ever hear of blacks calling other blacks niggers back then? Probably not, at least not that often. Nowadays... every "gangster" is like "hey nigga", "you fuckin nigger", etc.

                              Oh and Chuck, I have no problem calling out a mexican, indian, another white, etc. There are the "cool" ones, and their are the "low life" ones.

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                                Bp-08;288490 wrote:
                                Omg hillbilly sisterfuckers you racist! I dont think you get it, these people dont hate black people. quit saying that. They hate niggers. This thread is about a nigger.

                                this...

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                                  That's great and all. Coming from living in the less than pretty side of San Diego, I can tell you I knew a lot of people who would find that offensive, and wouldn't myself be caught dead using the N word around my old neighborhood. If you believe its an offensive word to black people, you're a fucking idiot. The end.

                                  However, I think Kanye is sort of a dipshit anyway. His stealing of the spotlight for no reason is ridiculous. Its too bad you can't fire him from his job, or vote him out of office. Stupid rap stars..

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                                    The real racists are the people who are bitching and whining about it so much.

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                                      Link;288525 wrote:
                                      Do you see white people getting worked up when someone calls them a cracker? I doubt it. We laugh.

                                      Oh man.... Bringing the white man back to the days of owning land and people..... I find that offensive!

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                                        Supposedly theres a rumor going around that Taylor Swift and Kanye had a meeting with their same agent about a week and a half before the VMA's....

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                                          Lol @ this thread, i thought it was supposed to be opinions on Kanye not on radical racism....anyways im gunna agree with chuck and thrash and that side of this argument just to get my .02 cents in lol

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