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  • lord_deastofactL Offline
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    lord_deastofact
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    Fix it fast! or you will have bigger problems

    Minute ricer!

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    • A Offline
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      aliengotpsi
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      #5

      Same thing happined to me about 2 months ago and I just kicked the car and now it sits as im sick of DSM's

      Kevin Smith
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      Why does everybody brush their teeth before going to the dentist but never wash their car before bring it to me??

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      • treimcheT Offline
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        The belt usually doesn't rip teeth off unless there's something that is locking up.

        Troy
        2009 Yamaha R1
        2002 WRX
        2001 Toyota Tundra
        2001 Yamaha R6
        1988 Yamaha YSR 50
        2003 XR50

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        • harwood39H Offline
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          harwood39
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          fix it before all the valves need to be replaced. Find out why it caused it to rip the teath off in the process.

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          • ticklemedalyT Offline
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            ticklemedaly
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            treimche wrote:
            The belt usually doesn't rip teeth off unless there's something that is locking up.

            Most of the time on a dsm the teeth get ripped because something is causing way too much drag on the belt. Most cases it is the oil pump. They are notorious for having low oil pressure when the mileage gets high, mostly caused by owners not changing the oil every 2k miles like they are suppose to and becoming a hell of a drag on the system due to worn parts.

            My suggestion is that if you own a dsm, and your belt broke, get a used engine.....this is coming from experience. get a used one, replace both the oil pump, water pump, and the belts along with all the seals, then reinstall into the motor. The thing will run top notch afterwards, if done properly that is.

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            • bluejaysB Offline
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              bluejays
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              #9

              if the timing belt skipped notches your most likely DID bend valves. unless there was divine intervention or something.

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                out there
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                #10

                ticklemedaly wrote:
                My suggestion is that if you own a dsm, and your belt broke, get a used engine.....this is coming from experience. get a used one, replace both the oil pump, water pump, and the belts along with all the seals, then reinstall into the motor. The thing will run top notch afterwards, if done properly that is.

                bad idea. how do you know that the used replacement motor hasn't been treated even worse? there's no guarantee with so many moving parts, buying someone else's used car/engine/tranny/etc is buying someone else's problems. i would just put work into the engine already in the car

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                • treimcheT Offline
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                  treimche
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                  #11

                  I would just sell the car to me for cheap since the motor is probably f'ed and you probably don't want to deal with it!

                  Troy
                  2009 Yamaha R1
                  2002 WRX
                  2001 Toyota Tundra
                  2001 Yamaha R6
                  1988 Yamaha YSR 50
                  2003 XR50

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                  • King RicerK Offline
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                    treimche wrote:
                    I would just sell the car to me for cheap since the motor is probably f'ed and you probably don't want to deal with it!
                    that's funny troy, don't you have enough problems with your 2g? why would you want to deal with a 1g?

                    > Trafik Jamz;299122 wrote:
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                    • ticklemedalyT Offline
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                      ticklemedaly
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                      out there wrote:
                      bad idea. how do you know that the used replacement motor hasn't been treated even worse? there's no guarantee with so many moving parts, buying someone else's used car/engine/tranny/etc is buying someone else's problems. i would just put work into the engine already in the car

                      1st....Owning a used dsm = IT HAS BEEN TREATED LIKE SHIT IN THE PAST!!!!!!!!!

                      2nd...Most used engines come with some kind of a warrenty, which is why I suggest replacing most of the critical things while it is out in the open. When the engine is removed from a vehicle and is in known working order, they usually check compression too, mainly because they dont want to send out a motor that may be running only on 3,5,7 cylinders.

                      3rd....This is from MY EXPERIENCE....both from owning a dsm and being a technician. They are a pain in the ass trying to fix when the valves have been bent....And there is always at LEAST 4 bent (intake and exhaust on 2 cylinders at once)

                      my .02 cents

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                      • ticklemedalyT Offline
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                        ticklemedaly
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                        97Cav wrote:
                        that's funny troy, don't you have enough problems with your 2g? why would you want to deal with a 1g?

                        owning a 2g = problems....
                        owning a 1g = problems....
                        owning any mitsu with high miles = problems

                        Great motors, horrible to work on.

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                          out there
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                          #15

                          i suppose neither one of us specified where the used engine would be coming from...
                          if the head is the only thing damaged, just send it off to buscur, ffwd connection, turbotrix, fasterthanyou, etc and get something better back
                          keep in mind, this is IF the head is the only thing damaged. i would take it to someplace that knows the engine before i even think about keeping it (for reasons that ryan mentioned)

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                            slowvo
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                            Owning anything making any power = problems
                            your stock honda = reliable.

                            horrible to work on? haha....what do YOU work on?

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                              eatinup_pony_racer
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                              i wasnt mine but they fixed it it seems to be fine/

                              i love lays ;) ponys are dog food :D

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                              • ticklemedalyT Offline
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                                ticklemedaly
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                                slowvo wrote:
                                Owning anything making any power = problems
                                your stock honda = reliable.

                                horrible to work on? haha....what do YOU work on?

                                what do "I" work on?? anything and everything. I'm not some punk who thinks he knows everything, I'm actually a trained and certified technician. Hell, I put motors in 2 different talons this past month because of timing belt failure.

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                                • ticklemedalyT Offline
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                                  ticklemedaly
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                                  #19

                                  eatinup_pony_racer wrote:
                                  i wasnt mine but they fixed it it seems to be fine/

                                  give it time....unless they're lucky?

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                                    PSiedTSi
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                                    ticklemedaly wrote:
                                    And there is always at LEAST 4 bent (intake and exhaust on 2 cylinders at once)

                                    wait so it just bends 1 of each in 2 cylinders?

                                    At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

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                                    > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
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                                    • ticklemedalyT Offline
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                                      ticklemedaly
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                                      PSiedTSi wrote:
                                      wait so it just bends 1 of each in 2 cylinders?

                                      explaination....16 valve engine, 4 per cylinder, 2 intake and 2 exhaust per combustion chamber....

                                      say cylinder 1 was on the intake stroke, so the 2 intake valves would bend, while the cylinder 4 was on the exhaust stroke, it would bend the 2 exhaust valves, but if it caught it among the floating part while all 4 were open on the intake stroke....called valve overlap....there is a chance it would bend all 4 of those, but very rarely. on a dsm, 1 and 4 are at tdc, while 2 and 3 are at tdc.

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                                      • PSiedTSiP Offline
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                                        PSiedTSi
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                                        yeah sorry i was fuckin tired...i realize that now that i reread everything...my bad

                                        At first I did it for fun, then I realized I made the investment and had to do it!

                                        92 Talon AWD 6/4bolt [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                                        95 240SX SE SR20DET [EMAIL="[email protected]"][email protected][/EMAIL]
                                        1993.5 Supra Hardtop...Sold
                                        Next project? 6cyl, 6spd?

                                        > spanish-rice;237125 wrote:
                                        > at first i thought the title said beer truck drivers needed... In which case i accidently put my two weeks in at work.

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                                        • ticklemedalyT Offline
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                                          ticklemedaly
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                                          thats cool, we all get tired once in awhile 😉

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