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Camaros sure are slow

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  • zbrownZ Offline
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    zbrown
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    #27

    there is a hell of a lot of difference between a boosted and NA setup, you know that

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      24valvenotak
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      #28

      the factory tuned ecu is for emissions and fuel economy... not 32% more hp

      Getcher green hat, we are goin fishin.

      > 63vette;288530 wrote:
      > I dont know shit about building cars.

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      • inspector01I Offline
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        zbrown;305421 wrote:
        there is a hell of a lot of difference between a boosted and NA setup, you know that

        Granted, just saying it is possible. I have seen many other cars pick up 10+% NA. Conservative factory tunes, especially with variable cam timing leave a lot to be gained on many cars. I could care less what they make, i will never own a mustang, just adding information I have seen from others as to the capabilities of the car. No one knows exactly what it will do yet till its tested.

        PVC Squad Member #1

        > bubba to Cobra Rob;279451 wrote:
        > ^ and I thought I posted some dumb shit...

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        • nonamekidN Offline
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          #30

          inspector01;305417 wrote:
          Welcome to modern cars.....

          100% stock EVO X gained 32% peak hp (even more in the midrange) with just reflashing.

          If you take a boosted car and increase the boost, you should make more power. If you don't, there is something wrong. I'd like to see numbers where they aren't increasing the boost to create more power. That wasn't just a remap of the fuel curve.

          1990 240SX coupe
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          1983 VW Rabbit GTI 2.0 swap

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          • E Offline
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            Eurofan
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            #31

            http://www.burgertuning.com/products.html

            Yeah, I would have to agree. Factory tunes are ridiculously conservative.

            But back to the topic- Mustangs suck dick. Big dick.

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              #32

              inspector01;305417 wrote:
              100% stock EVO X gained 32% peak hp (even more in the midrange) with just reflashing.

              Same with 2008+ STi's, they have been known to increase WHP by 55 and WTQ by 60HP on a fairly conservative reflash.

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                #33

                Eurofan;305431 wrote:
                http://www.burgertuning.com/products.html

                Yeah, I would have to agree. Factory tunes are ridiculously conservative.

                But back to the topic- Mustangs suck dick. Big dick.

                But at least mustangs are better than BMWs.

                1990 240SX coupe
                1992 Mazda MX-3 GS 2.5 swap
                1983 VW Rabbit GTI 2.0 swap

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                • inspector01I Offline
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                  #34

                  nonamekid;305429 wrote:
                  If you take a boosted car and increase the boost, you should make more power. If you don't, there is something wrong. I'd like to see numbers where they aren't increasing the boost to create more power. That wasn't just a remap of the fuel curve.

                  He didn't increase boost, he straightened out the fueling and mivec, and got it to hold steady boost rather than dropping off. I never claimed any different, just showed an example of a car gaining 32-38%. It is common knowledge factory tunes are very conservative, especially on boosted cars, but even N/A can gain decent power with fueling, and especially variable cam timing adjustments.

                  PVC Squad Member #1

                  > bubba to Cobra Rob;279451 wrote:
                  > ^ and I thought I posted some dumb shit...

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                  • nonamekidN Offline
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                    nonamekid
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                    #35

                    Going from 12psi to 16psi is a boost increase.

                    1990 240SX coupe
                    1992 Mazda MX-3 GS 2.5 swap
                    1983 VW Rabbit GTI 2.0 swap

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                    • bubbaB Offline
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                      #36

                      Cobra Rob;305392 wrote:
                      so that was the fag i saw at napa on his little bmx bike:icon_puke_r:

                      yep.. wanna race?

                      blackcherryTSi;305401 wrote:
                      yeeeeeaaaahhhhhh...... exercising is DEFINENTLY for fags. everyone knows this! :icon_thumright:

                      This... maybe if Cobra Rob would ride a bike he wouldn't be such a fat fuck...

                      Then, maybe he could get a chick (highly doubtful), and not have to rely on settling for dudes...

                      Current Cars:
                      08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
                      93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
                      90 Honda CRX - Project car
                      90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

                      Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                      • dont got a rideD Offline
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                        dont got a ride
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                        #37

                        bubba;305437 wrote:
                        yep.. wanna race?

                        This... maybe if Cobra Rob would ride a bike he wouldn't be such a fat fuck...

                        Then, maybe he could get a chick (highly doubtful), and not have to rely on settling for dudes...

                        does exercising help your hair grow back?

                        1998 Dodge stratus ES....disowned
                        2002 WRX Stage 2 (no flash)...SOLD
                        2001 2.5rs (project RSTI)

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                          #38

                          dont got a ride;305440 wrote:
                          does exercising help your hair grow back?

                          hair is overrated...

                          Current Cars:
                          08 Honda Ruckus - Stunt Machine
                          93 Subaru Impreza L - DD/ Winter beater
                          90 Honda CRX - Project car
                          90 Honda CRX Dx - Burnt (R.I.P.) - Racecar

                          Past Cars: 85 Chevy C-10, 87 Dodge D-50, 91 Honda Prelude Si, 91 Buick Regal, 91 Acura Integra Ls, 87 Mazda RX-7, 90 Honda Civic Si, 91 Honda Civic Si, 89 Chevy S-10, 91 Honda Crx Hf, 91 Acura Integra Rs, 95 Subaru Impreza L, 92 Acura Integra GSR, 89 Mazda RX-7 (LT1), 88 Mazda RX-7, 92 Civic Cx, 87 Mazda RX-7 TII

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                            63vette
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                            #39

                            A little different when both drivers can actually drive. Close race tho...
                            Camaro won.

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                              dont got a ride;305357 wrote:
                              we all "learned" that BMW = all time best track/drag/cruise/show off/dad has money/better then subaru/PSiedTSi is Eurofan's "BMW>all" trunk puppet car of all time

                              just sayin

                              What does "daddy having money" and "psiedTsi is eurofans" have to do with anything?? Just wondering what goes on in the thing you call a brain.

                              2003 Mitsubishi Evolution 8
                              2011 Ford F150 Ecoboost

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                              • YellowEvoY Offline
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                                YellowEvo
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #41

                                bubba;305437 wrote:
                                yep.. wanna race?

                                This... maybe if Cobra Rob would ride a bike he wouldn't be such a fat fuck...

                                Then, maybe he could get a chick (highly doubtful), and not have to rely on settling for dudes...

                                I love when an inbred tries to make jokes... Makes me giggle..:icon_cheers:

                                2003 Mitsubishi Evolution 8
                                2011 Ford F150 Ecoboost

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                                  inspector01;305435 wrote:
                                  He didn't increase boost, he straightened out the fueling and mivec, and got it to hold steady boost rather than dropping off. I never claimed any different, just showed an example of a car gaining 32-38%. It is common knowledge factory tunes are very conservative, especially on boosted cars, but even N/A can gain decent power with fueling, and especially variable cam timing adjustments.

                                  wait, so 32-38% at peak or 32-38% somewhere in the RPM range?

                                  1995 Mustang
                                  CAI, rimz, and springs.

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                                    #43

                                    RSmotors;1287587 wrote:
                                    The boost was dropping off to 12 psi and now holds 16. Alot of improvement on this car with just tuning.

                                    inspector01;305435 wrote:
                                    got it to hold steady boost rather than dropping off.

                                    nonamekid;305436 wrote:
                                    Going from 12psi to 16psi is a boost increase.

                                    That would be the same peak boost, just getting it to hold boost rather than drop off like it does from the factory (AKA "Tuning")

                                    dubbsy;305458 wrote:
                                    wait, so 32-38% at peak or 32-38% somewhere in the RPM range?

                                    32% peak, but in the mid-rang he gained ~38%.

                                    PVC Squad Member #1

                                    > bubba to Cobra Rob;279451 wrote:
                                    > ^ and I thought I posted some dumb shit...

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                                      capitlj
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                                      #44

                                      Eurofan claims that Ford, and all the Domestic makes, have lost sight of what's important, or their "priorities" I think. So you see no correlation between drag racing and any other motorsport? You assume that they are not doing any testing to make it handle better. Every race has a start correct? Usually involving a sprint to the first corner down a straightaway. Ever watch any trans am racing, or SCCA? Mustangs do just fine there against some stiff German competition. The new mustang even has a brembo brake upgrade availabe from the factory. So what if it has a solid rear axle, if it smokes the bimmers and porsches on the track I guess it works, and if it aint broke don't fix it.

                                      So back to his post that their priorities need to be reevaluated. Don't you think that Ford knows the mustangs demographic a little by now? I mean they have only been selling the things for like 46 years. Isn't it logical to assume that a lot of new mustangs will see some time at the drag strip and significantly less will see a road course? You also brought up the cheap plasticky interior, I agree with you here somewhat it isn't very appealing but have you sat in a 65 and then an 05. I have and its like a time capsule, there is so much of the old pony car character in the interior I could give a shit about how the dash or the door panel feels on the rare occasion that I touch it. Another thing is it keeps costs down, so maybe I can't afford a new one right now but I can damn sure afford myself an 07 or 08 GT. Yes that is because it has depreciated in value a lot, but what about a 07 or 08 3 series could I touch one for 15 to 20K? If so, the depreciation is a lot more significant there.

                                      In summary you don't know shit but thanks for playing.

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                                        Kossick
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                                        I dont care about any of that, Mustangs are ghey. Period.

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                                          #46

                                          ^ Case in point you're obviously not in the mustangs target group, i.e. people who don't suck.:D

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                                          > Mitch Hedberg wrote:
                                          > I'm sick of following my dreams, I'm just going to find out where they are going and hook up with them later.

                                          ASE certified parts specialist.
                                          2004 Impala LS 3.8

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